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		<title>CCP Style Nationalism Meets New Zealand Democracy, Hillarity Ensues. . .</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the United States races to the polls in an increasingly sleazy and bizarre electoral race, New Zealand is jogging more sedately towards its own election.Â  While sifting the election related news I came across this interesting little snippet on Chinese voters. The article is written by Lincoln Tan, a New Zealand journalist originally from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the United States races to the polls in an increasingly sleazy and bizarre electoral race, New Zealand is jogging more sedately towards its own election.Â  While sifting the election related news I came across this <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz-election-2008/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501799&amp;objectid=10536584">interesting little snippet on Chinese voters</a>.</p>
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<p>The article is written by Lincoln Tan, a New Zealand journalist originally from Singapore who takes a particular interest in Chinese community and immigrant issues.Â  Mr. Tan identified a distinct difference between the voting patterns of Chinese immigrants to New Zealand originating from the People&#8217;s Republic of China and those originating from elsewhere.</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>The Herald spoke to 32 Chinese voters ahead of a Chinese candidates&#8217; political debate, to be televised live on Chinese TV this Saturday, and 13 out of 20 who originally came from mainland China list &#8220;loyalty to China&#8221; as most important.</em></p>
<p><em>This is the distinct difference between Chinese voters who were originally from China, and the others, who wanted a member who will be able to stand up against racism and discrimination.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Smart readers will be thinking: &#8220;Ah, but what exactly do they mean by &#8216;loyalty to China&#8217;?&#8221;Â  It can&#8217;t possibly be what it sounds!Â  Perhaps they really just mean &#8220;looking after the interests of the Chinese community in New Zealand&#8221; or something?</p>
<p>Sadly no.Â  Later down the same page we get clarification:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>The secretary of the United Chinese Associations of New Zealand, Jim He, said this line of thinking among mainland Chinese voters is a result of the country&#8217;s historical past.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;When China was weak nobody took notice of us, but now that China is strong, governments and people everywhere want a part of it. So, of course, the expectation of a Chinese MP here from the community is that he or she also supports the Chinese Government,&#8221; he said.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Setting aside the self-pitying and faintly xenophobic tone (i.e. obligatory reference to Chinese &#8216;humiliation&#8217; and blaming of foreigners for Chinese bigotry) and bizarre logic (i.e. increased foreign interest in China requires ethnic Chinese parliamentary representatives overseas to support the Chinese government), the key point to emerge is that &#8220;loyalty to China&#8221; equates to &#8220;supporting the Chinese government&#8221; for Chinese (i.e. PRC) voters in the upcoming New Zealand election.</p>
<p>What to make of that?</p>
<p>I see something odd going on when voters in a democratic nation see loyalty to an authoritarian, anti-democratic foreign government as the single most desirable trait their elected representatives can possess.Â  For voters who feel this way, might the moral course not be to abstain from voting?Â  Such voters seem to have subordinated their interest in New Zealand to their interest in China, declaring their primary interest in New Zealand as being the promotion of Chinese government interests there.Â  Loyalty to New Zealand seems absent from their world view.Â  Perhaps they see the right to vote as too valuable a privilege to waste, but by voting in New Zealand to support the anti-democratic CCP are they not supporting the denial of voting rights to their countrymen back in China?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t pretend to have the answers to these questions.Â  They just strike me as interesting.</p>
<p>Interviews with voters from China further clarified their views.Â  In discussing Shanghai-born Pansy Wong, currently New Zealand&#8217;s only Chinese MP, a voter had this to say:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Pansy Wong grew up in Hong Kong and came to New Zealand too long ago, so I don&#8217;t think she understands the new China,&#8221; said retail assistant Zhang Hui, 28, from Beijing. &#8220;Pansy did not attend a pro-Beijing Olympic rally at Aotea Square in April and that is a sign that she is not loyal to China, and that&#8217;s also why I am not giving her my support.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>This comment is interesting.Â  The pro-Beijing Olympic rally in Aotea Square was an <a href="http://bunnyhugs.org/2008/05/01/ugly-nationalistic-chinese-demonstration-in-auckland/">ugly nationalistic protest </a>at which myself and various others were assaulted.Â  Hostility was running so high that an organizer told me to leave because the event was &#8220;not safe for New Zealanders&#8221;.Â  The Chinese voter above appears not merely to support the import of hostile Chinese nationalism into New Zealand, but also to demand that Chinese parliamentarians in New Zealand act as cheerleaders.</p>
<p>A less outrageous quote from another Chinese voter follows:</p>
<p><em>Property manager Iris Yu, 33, of Belmont, said: &#8220;New Zealand is our second home, but China is where our roots are, so of course if someone wants to represent us, then the person has to be from there.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Thankfully Iris Yu does not explicitly demand that New Zealand parliamentarians be loyal to the Chinese Communist Party.Â  However, New Zealand is clearly subordinate to China in her world view.Â  Not only is New Zealand merely her &#8220;second home&#8221;, but the primary qualification she seeks in a parliamentary representative is that they be from China.Â  Parochial nationalism rules at the expense of issues.</p>
<p>Really, what can you do but laugh? Thank God plenty of Chinese in New Zealand are not from the People&#8217;s Republic of China, and not every Chinese New Zealander from the People&#8217;s Republic of China is a rabid nationalist.</p>
<p>The thousands of Chinese nationalists now living in New Zealand talk and act like nutters.Â  Better pray they either return to China or raise children less bigoted and nationalistic than themselves.Â  Hopefully their children will see New Zealand local and national issues as more important than serving the Chinese Communist Party.</p>
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		<title>More on the &#8220;McDonald&#8217;s Incident&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not quite the Marco Polo Bridge Incident you may be thinking, but some of New Zealand&#8217;s Chinese netizens might beg to differ. We are hearing a lot about how the world needs to start listening to China more. So what are Chinese netizens in New Zealand saying? Well, while there are sane voices out there, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite the Marco Polo Bridge Incident you may be thinking, but some of New Zealand&#8217;s Chinese netizens might beg to differ.  We are hearing a lot about how the world needs to start listening to China more.  So what are Chinese netizens in New Zealand saying?  Well, while there are sane voices out there, many of these people appear to have a screw loose.  How much of this online anger is going to be dished out physically?  Will young patriots really track down a pregnant street person and deal to her with iron bars?<span id="more-775"></span></p>
<p>The &#8220;McDonald&#8217;s Incident&#8221; saw saw a pregnant Maori or Polynesian woman (apparently some kind of street person) aggressively initiate an altercation with Chinese demonstrators.  The altercation turned physical and the aggressors got the worst of it, with two Polynesian females being kicked and punched by a large group of Chinese (plus a European).  The Polynesians were charged with assault.  No Chinese were charged with anything, and by all accounts the police were extremely sympathetic. Many of the Chinese side feel they still have a score to settle though.  Some feel the Polynesians must be punished to send out the message that China cannot be bullied.  Others are worried that if the Polynesians are not punished Chinese demonstrators will react by becoming more violent.</p>
<p>The incident seems to be the only case of non-Chinese initiated violence from last Sunday&#8217;s demonstration, though some details are a bit controversial.  Two accounts say the physical stuff was started by the Polynesians, but one account says a Chinese male &#8216;accidentally&#8217; initiated physical contact.</p>
<p>The following is a complete (albeit rough) translation of the first thread on this incident from Sky Kiwi.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>J2lane says: <o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>What happened with the incident outside McDonalds?<span>  </span>Was there any follow up?<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I saw some of my compatriots crowded around the entrance to the </em><st1:street><st1:address><em>Queen Street</em></st1:address></st1:street><em> McDonalds, and heard some arguing.<span>  </span>Everybody was so united, and so fired up.<span>  </span>I was affected myself.<span>  </span>The whole while I was driving to the Railway Station and parking the car I was feeling all fired up.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>So did a fight happen?<span>  </span>I took a quick look around when I was passing in the car.<span>  </span>There were no police.<span>  </span>I hope no Chinese people got in trouble.<span>   </span>I heard that in </em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em>Australia</em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em> several students were sent home to </em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em>China</em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em>.<span>  </span>I hope that isnâ€™t going to happen here.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>So can anyone tell me what happened?<span>  </span>Share your experiences.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Joz27 says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>It was like this: My friend and I were walking towards the train station.<span>  </span>As we passed McDonalds two Islanders swore at us.<span>  </span>We ignored them because we really didnâ€™t want to cause any trouble.<span>  </span>They carried on cursing us though, and asking us to go back to </em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em>China</em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em>, saying this was not our country.<span>  </span>Biting our tongues, we stopped walking and stood our ground to see what they would say.<span>  </span>A group of our friends were on the other side of the road.<span>  </span>The two Islanders stood up and walked towards us.<span>  </span>We were a group of six or seven.<span>  </span>They came up to us and cursed us, to which we replied â€œwe donâ€™t care!â€<span>  </span>They continued swearing, and got in our faces being very provocative.<span>  </span>One of my friends was worried his girlfriend would get into a fight with them, so he started to pull her away.<span>  </span>He accidentally touched one of the Islanders, and the islanders began pushing us.<span>  </span>We didnâ€™t react.<span>  </span>They pushed us again.<span>  </span>We still didnâ€™t react.<span>  </span>They even knocked my (male) friendâ€™s glasses off.<span>  </span>My friend still didnâ€™t react.<span>  </span>He just picked up his glasses.<span>  </span>Then the Islanders cursed at two more females from our group.<span>  </span>Then they [NOTE: Presumably the Islanders.<span></span>] started hitting.<span>  </span>I was so scared I didnâ€™t react.<span>  </span>Nobody was helping!<span>  </span>Then I waved to the people across the street.<span>  </span>It was so great to see them come running over.<span>  </span>The first to reach us was a westerner, and he hit the two Islanders.<span>  </span>I really was grateful.<span>  </span>Although there was a fight nobody got hurt.<span>  </span>Iâ€™m really relieved.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Clock+knife says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Ah, so thatâ€™s what happened.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>You are the most precious says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>A westerner came and helped fight?<span>  </span>Pretty cool!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>â€˜Yaojinâ€™ says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>So provocative!<span>  </span>You should have recorded them.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Venlley says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>These Maori have nothing in their heads besides violence!<span>  </span><o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>End of April says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Shit too! [in their heads]<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Sallylove says:</em></strong><em><o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>You really put up with a lot without getting provoked!<span>  </span>I admire you!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Polynesians are much lower class than Maori.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>J2Lane says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Just so long as nobody got hurt.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Good to see we taught those pigs a good lesson.<span>  </span>At the time I was thinking, at what point should I jump out of my car and grab the metal rod I keep in the boot.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Iâ€™m going to go to Placemakers and buy a piece of steel pipe.<span>  </span>I need to upgrade my weapon.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Lala Rat says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Our flagpole was made out of a metal rod. . .<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Actually during the rally we had to be careful not to wave the flag too hard in case the pole went flying.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Itâ€™s a shame I didnâ€™t see the McDonalds incident.<span>  </span>I could have been in there swinging my flag.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>DongningbinBN says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I support that westerner!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Lala Rat says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Absolutely.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Seeing that westerner with Chinese flags painted on his face and waving a Chinese flag, it was even more moving than seeing ourselves doing the same.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Clock+knife says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Next time Iâ€™ll be bringing a metal flagpole, and if certain people arenâ€™t careful they will be getting their heads cracked.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>KakaJ says<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Myself and my friend are the two girls that the poster above mentioned nearly got into a fight with the Maoris.<span>  </span>It was like this. . . One of the Maoris threw a paper cup at a car carrying a Chinese flag in </em><st1:street><st1:address><em>Queen Street</em></st1:address></st1:street><em>.<span>  </span>Initially we were going to just take it lying down.<span>  </span>We didnâ€™t expect her to curse us too!<span>  </span>â€œFuck off.<span>  </span>Go back to your country!â€<span>  </span>When she said that I replied â€œWhat the fuck did you say?<span>  </span>What the fuck are you doing?<span>  </span>You fuck off!â€<span>  </span>Then she came over and grabbed my (female) friendâ€™s clothes!<span>  </span>We started arguing!<span>  </span>Just as the Maori was about to hit us, a group of Chinese came running across the road carrying Chinese flags!<span>  </span>The first to arrive was a young Kiwi guy, also carrying a Chinese flag.<span>  </span>He kicked the Maori girl.<span>  </span>Then several other </em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">lovely Chinese also joined in and started hitting the Maoris.<span>  </span>We were startled, and were pushed out of the way by all the Chinese that rushed over to help.<span>  </span>I heard somebody was injured and bleeding?<span>  </span>Then the police arrived.<span>  </span>Then we all started shouting â€œWe love </span></em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">China</span></em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">! We love </span></em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">China</span></em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">!â€<span>  </span>The Maori was still swearing at us.<span>  </span>I think in the end she was taken away by the police.<o:p></o:p></span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="font-size: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">I still feel a bit scared when I think about it, because that Maori girl was so fat she was like three of me!<span>  </span>But Iâ€™m so grateful for the way things happened, and grateful that we have strength in unity.<span>  </span>I would also like to thank the Kiwi who rescued us, and the lovely Chinese who also helped.<o:p></o:p></span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="font-size: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">I also want to thank all the Chinese who came over to help! <span> </span>Because of you people, I feel that in future I will never have anything to fear.<span>  </span>I donâ€™t need to fear Maoris.<span>  </span>I donâ€™t need to fear Kiwis.<span>  </span>So long as we Chinese join together, wherever we go in the world, nobody will dare so much as look sideways at us!!<span>  </span>We can walk the whole world without fear!!<o:p></o:p></span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="font-size: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>â€˜Turtle coming for dinnerâ€™ says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Pretty interesting!<span>  </span>Ha ha!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>â€˜Clear and Worldless Dayâ€™ says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>You shouldnâ€™t have put up with any of that!<span>  </span>You should have attacked them right at the start.<span>  </span>You had them outnumbered.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>You went and let them knock your glasses off and insult you.<span>  </span>Man Iâ€™m angry.<span>  </span>If itâ€™s the last thing I ever do I want to smash these sons of bitches.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I wish I could turn the clock back.<span>  </span>I totally missed the McDonalds incident because me and my friends were down at the </em><st1:city><st1:place><em>LV</em></st1:place></st1:city><em> store singing the national anthem.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Zhangxiu0420 says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>So thatâ€™s how the incident started then?<span>  </span>Looks like I smacked them for a good reason then!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Joz.27 says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I really regret I didnâ€™t smack them myself.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Crazy red leaf says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>You should have killed them.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Siyuan79 says:</em></strong><em><o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I know that Kiwi.<span>  </span>After it finished he rode the same bus as me back to the </em><st1:place><st1:placename><em>North</em></st1:placename><em> </em><st1:placetype><em>Shore</em></st1:placetype></st1:place><em>.<span>  </span>I guess he lives in Glenfield.<span>  </span><o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>While he was waiting for the bus he carefully folded up his Chinese flag and put it away.<span>  </span>I was really touched.<span>  </span>It was a shame my English wasnâ€™t good enough to talk with him.<span>  </span>On the bus he was excitedly telling all the other passengers about the rally.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Jenny_kim says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Who is joz.27?<span>  </span>I was a witness to what happened.<span>  </span>I was the one who had their clothes grabbed by one of those Polynesian sons of bitches. <o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>P.S. I am looking for the people who rescued us.<span>  </span>Any of you who see us please contact me.<span>  </span>You are all lovely!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Tiaopixiaogege says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>[Picture]<span>  </span>Is this him?<span>  </span>He was the first to run over.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Angel in Hell 1983 says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>What a shame!<span>  </span>I always miss this sort of stuff.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>â€˜Clear and Wordless Dayâ€™ says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Agree with the above poster!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Cena says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I missed it.<span>  </span>We outnumbered them.<span>  </span>What do we have to be afraid of?<span>  </span>We should mess these sons of bitches up!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Waiting4u says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>That westerner looked so gentle.<span>  </span>I would never have expected he was a tough guy.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Zhangxu0420 says:</em></strong><em> <o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>[to joz.27] Were they the friends I saw outside the door of â€˜Big Worldâ€™ [Seems to be an internet cafÃ©.<span>  </span>I donâ€™t know the location though.].<span>  </span><o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Zhangxu0420 says:</em></strong><em> <o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>[to jenny_kim] Didnâ€™t I jump in and help?<span>  </span>Maybe I rescued you?<span>  </span>As soon as I saw a girl getting her clothes grabbed I raced in and gave a kick to the back.<span>  </span><o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>So who were the ones I bumped into outside â€˜Big Worldâ€™.<span>  </span>They seemed pretty staunch.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Jenny_Kim says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>[to the previous poster] If you saw an incident on the other side of the road and were part of the group that rushed over then you did [rescue me].<span>  </span>At that time there were only a few Chinese on our side of the street.<span>  </span>As for who was first into the fray I only remember the Kiwi, plus a Chinese man with very short hair.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Zhangxu0420 says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>[to the previous poster] No idea about that.<span>  </span>I just know I got the first kick in.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Zhangxu0420 says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Maybe you mean the second clash?<span>  </span>Because my flag and that of the Kiwi got grabbed and ripped.<span>  </span>Then we rushed back in.<span>  </span>Then there was a third clash.<span>  </span>Ha ha!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>J2lane says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Reading the above posts. . . fucking great!<span>  </span><o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I arrived late that day and hadnâ€™t prepared.<span>  </span>I was driving down </em><st1:street><st1:address><em>Queen   St.</em></st1:address></st1:street><em> and saw my compatriots rushing across to the right hand side of the road.<span>  </span>I knew a fight was happening, I was pretty aroused and I wanted to pull an iron bar out of my car and start dealing to a few people.<span>  </span>But then I thought maybe that would be overreacting, and that the police might see.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I didnâ€™t have a flag with me because I was running late.<span>  </span>I played some nationalistic music on my radio instead to give support.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Havenâ€™t felt that great in ages!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>La la Rat says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Go look at page A1.<span>  </span>There really has been some follow up to all this.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Joz.27 says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>[to zhangxu0420â€™s earlier post about the unclear â€˜groupâ€™]<span>  </span>Yes!<span>  </span>It was them. [the group outside â€˜Big Worldâ€™]<span>     </span><o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>up.n.go says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>[again to Zhangxu0420â€™s earlier post on the identity of the â€˜groupâ€™] Yes that was us.<span>  </span>We were people you saw outside the Internet cafÃ©.</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Below is another account of the incident from a later thread (which became one of the most discussed threads of the week), plus some selected posts from that thread.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Xiaofan says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>On April 27<sup>th</sup> there was an incident outside the entrance to McDonalds.<span>  </span>I saw peoples talking about it here.<span>  </span>Iâ€™m sorry to tell you all, but it still isnâ€™t over.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I am one of the people who was involved.<span>  </span>At the time there were a lot of witnesses, but the incident started with me.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>[After the rally] we marched down to the McDonalds.<span>  </span>At McDonalds we came across two big and aggressive female Polynesians (actually they might have been Maori, but since I canâ€™t tell the difference I will call them Polynesians).<span>  </span>The pair were constantly cursing me, saying â€˜Fâ€™ this and that.<span>  </span>I couldnâ€™t stand listening to it so I began arguing with them.<span>  </span>I didnâ€™t use any offensive language though.<span>  </span>They rushed up and made like they were going to spit at me.<span>  </span>We backed off right up until the edge of the kerb, from where we could not back off any further.<span>  </span>Then one of them snatched at my placard, scratching my hand and ruining the placard.<span>  </span>My boyfriend was pushed by them, pushed again, and still didnâ€™t react.<span>  </span>We were thinking whatever happened we mustnâ€™t react violently.<span>  </span>Then they knocked the glasses off one of us.<span>  </span>We picked the glasses up and said nothing.<span>  </span>The whole time they carried on swearing at us.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Then people came running across from the other side of the road.<span>  </span>First to arrive was a westerner who hit the Polynesians, then everybody started to join in.<span>  </span>We were the people standing there saying â€œcalm down, calm downâ€.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>When the police arrived they spoke to us and we gave them a detailed account of what had happened.<span>  </span>As everyone who was there knows, one of the Polynesian girls acted quite disgustingly, pulled up her clothes to reveal her stomach and saying she was pregnant.<span>  </span>I told the police her and her friend had pushed us and broken our glasses.<span>  </span>I couldnâ€™t believe it when she lied to the police and said my boyfriend has pushed her in the stomach.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>My boyfriend never pushed her.<span>  </span>As for her getting beaten up by the crowd, well even if she was pregnant it wasnâ€™t our problem.<span>  </span>While the police were taking our statements they were very much on our side and said with disgust that this was racial discrimination.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>After I got home the police called me to say that the Polynesians would be appearing in court on the 28<sup>th</sup> (i.e. the following day), but likely would not admit what they had done.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Sure enough, on Tuesday the court called me and said that they had been acquitted. [Iâ€™m not sure exactly how these things are done, but I assume she really means something like that they had appeared in court, pleaded not guilty (not quite sure what the charge was), and the case was adjourned for later] <o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>They are to appear again on May 19, and if they donâ€™t admit guilt on that occasion they will appear again on June 4.<span>  </span>My boyfriend and I have decided that if matters are taken to a third court appearance we will go and face them in court.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>The police recorded our material losses (the glasses), plus emotional damage (taking an emotional impact report).<span>  </span>So far as emotional damage went I told the police that their behavior had damaged my impression of </em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em>New Zealand</em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em>, I felt I had faced serious racial discrimination, and I felt unsafe.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Today (Thursday), my boyfriend was walking by himself on </em><st1:street><st1:address><em>Queen Street</em></st1:address></st1:street><em> opposite the cinema and ran into the same three Polynesians: the pregnant one, her sister, and an older and very aggressive one who seems to be her sisterâ€™s husband.<span>  </span>The pregnant one cursed at my boyfriend again, and tried to block his path, shouting â€œcome back here! Fuck you, bitch!â€<span>  </span>My boyfriend just bit his lip and carried on walking, and after a long while they stopped cursing him. <o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I really feel this is dangerous.<span>  </span>These people are often hanging around on </em><st1:street><st1:address><em>Queen   Street</em></st1:address></st1:street><em>.<span>  </span>Iâ€™m scared of running into them again, and it might be even worse next time.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>We not only want to claim damages, but also want to speak up on behalf of other Chinese.<span>  </span>Although we didnâ€™t want to personally sue her, the case has already gone before the courts.<span>  </span>There is no going back now.<span>  </span>We have no idea how to cancel a charge like this.<span>  </span>Anyway, even if we did know how we wouldnâ€™t want to cancel it.<span>  </span>We canâ€™t let these people know that Chinese are scared of them.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>In a democratic country like </em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em>New Zealand</em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em>, we have the right to hold a protest march [NOTE I do not believe any license was given for a protest march.<span>  </span>There was talk on Sky Kiwi about how the event was organized at short notice and the police never issued a permit for a march].<span>   </span>But they donâ€™t have the right to attack us, or the right to insult the dignity of our nation.<span>  </span>They are totally in the wrong, and by denying guilt are making a mockery of the courts.<span>  </span>They are just totally unrepentant!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>If they really feel so racially superior, and if they really feel invincible, then this incident is a great opportunity.<span>  </span>I am going to make a real effort to let them know, this is not their backyard, there is no reason for them to behave like such animals, and most especially they should not behave this way towards Chinese!<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>We donâ€™t really understand </em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em>New Zealand</em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em> law, and donâ€™t really understand the nature of the case against them.<span>  </span>The only things I am worried about right now is whether they are going to find my boyfriend and take revenge on him, and what to do if they get off without being punished.<span>  </span>What are we going to do if that happens?<span>  </span>Should I contact the police and let them know about what happened on the street today?<span>  </span>Does it count as a threat?<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>We need your support.<span>  </span>We hope someone who knows about the law can give us some help, maybe tell us what we should do next.<span>  </span>Do we need more witnesses?<span>  </span>Or maybe we should make more detailed statements on what happened, explain how we were emotionally hurt, and make sure they get punished?<span>  </span>I am also worried that this could influence plans to immigrate to </em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em>New Zealand</em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em> (something which my parents want to do). <o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Thank you everyone.<span>  </span>April 27 was an amazing day.<span>  </span>Whatever the flaws, I donâ€™t believe anyone could have organized a better day.<span>  </span>Iâ€™d definitely come again.<span>  </span>[Chinese] unity does not just mean uniting for one event, it means uniting the whole world!<span style="display: none"><o:p></o:p></span></em></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em>[<strong>NOTE:</strong> There are too many posts in this thread to translate all of them.<span>  </span>The majority of responses were reasonable enough.<span>  </span>The most common post was to suggest the original poster get some legal advice and not worry too much.<span>  </span>Many voices suggested the incident demonstrated serious racism and the Polynesians needed to be suitably punished to avenge the honor of </em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em>China</em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em> and prove to the world that Chinese people were not easily bullied. Several posters suggested further physical reprisals against the Polynesians. Some posters found the two Polynesian women very scary, to the point that failure to deal with them could jeopardize the future of Chinese political demonstrations in </em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em>New   Zealand</em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em>. I have translated a small sample of posts below, focusing on the revenge aspect]<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><st1:city><st1:place><strong><em>Austin</em></strong></st1:place></st1:city><strong><em> says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>[In response to a Guanny who wants to distribute photos of the pregnant woman so a group of Chinese can assault her.] If she gets let off without any punishment I am worried about two things, both at opposite ends of the spectrum:<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>The first is that nobody will feel like coming to future patriotic rallies because they will be worried about getting hit.<span>  </span>Even if they come they wonâ€™t dare shout slogans.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>The second is that some of us are going to take revenge despite her being pregnant and female (she is often in the city after all).<span>  </span>There could even be serious injury.<span>  </span>It would be really hard to control.<span>  </span>Actually that day when we were marching on </em><st1:street><st1:address><em>Queen Street</em></st1:address></st1:street><em> a lot of people were already getting carried away.<span>  </span>If she gets off without punishment it could lead to everyone completely losing control on our next protest march.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Anyway, whatever happens later all we can do for now is keep an eye on the situation.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left" align="left"><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; display: none">+B&amp;h;I.V;c6e2G2b</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt"><br />
<strong>Xiaofan says:<o:p></o:p></strong></span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left" align="left"><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">Hi thanks so much for all your advices and support!<br />
<span style="display: none">-J0G9s&amp;Y&amp;}&#8221;|%|</span></span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">æ–°è¥¿å…°åŽäººç¤¾åŒº</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">the pregnant woman we are sure she is pregnant, coz she showed us her tummy!!<br />
<span style="display: none">9G f/\%h%f$e(B2k(o.Q7[</span></span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">æ–°è¥¿å…°</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; display: none">,</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">æ–°è¥¿å…°å¨±ä¹</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; display: none">,</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">æ–°è¥¿å…°ç•™å­¦</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; display: none">,</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">æ–°è¥¿å…°å’¨è¯¢</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; display: none">,</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">æ–°è¥¿å…°ç”Ÿæ´»</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">but yea, Im agree with some of you, she s afraid of nothing, she was attacking others, swearing, and smoking~~</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 1pt; color: white">SkyKiwi</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 1pt; font-family: SimSun; color: white" lang="ZH-CN">ç¤¾åŒº</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 1pt; color: white">-Z#n7{0\)X/x.P6f</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt"><br />
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Now we cant take anything back coz it already happened, and we are not able to cancel this case just like that easy, eventhough we assume we can cancel the case, next time they see us, it will be the same. They will justcontinue insulting us even use violence.<br />
<span style="display: none">2d,E7]/\9B:D5D&amp;G</span></span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">æ–°è¥¿å…°åŽäººç¤¾åŒº</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; display: none">,</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">ç•™å­¦ç”Ÿäº¤æµä¸­å¿ƒ</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 1pt; font-family: SimSun; color: white" lang="ZH-CN">æ–°è¥¿å…°åŽäººç¤¾åŒº</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 1pt; color: white">,</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 1pt; font-family: SimSun; color: white" lang="ZH-CN">ç•™å­¦ç”Ÿäº¤æµä¸­å¿ƒ</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 1pt; color: white">:v4i:P;W&#8221;X6{*k7H</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt"><br />
we are university students and living in city, I think there are lots of chances to meet them.<br />
<span style="display: none">/?4F&#8217;?;h-],`1x&#8221;K,K5W</span></span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">æ–°è¥¿å…°åŽäººç¤¾åŒº</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">if we win, they will hav to pay for it, if they win, they will be more unbridled.<br />
<span style="display: none">%?.[6D,G A2I</span></span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">æ–°è¥¿å…°åŽäººç¤¾åŒº</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; display: none">,</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: SimSun; display: none" lang="ZH-CN">ç•™å­¦ç”Ÿäº¤æµä¸­å¿ƒ</span></em><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">either way, will not change how they treat us, because racism is racism.<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left" align="left"><strong><em><o:p> </o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>G-cool says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Get their photos up on here.<span>  </span>If the law doesnâ€™t work we can think of using some other methods.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Apricot NZ says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Put their photos up.<span>  </span>Iâ€™ll organize for a group of people to hang out at McDonalds and beat them up if we see them.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Jacky Zeng says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I donâ€™t know what I should do to help the original poster.<span>  </span>Does anyone have a clear photo of the face of the pregnant girl?<span>  </span>I saw a blurry image among photos put up elsewhere.<span>  </span>I think I know who she is and where she hangs out.<span>  </span>But I still need a clear photo of her face to be certain.<span>  </span>Maybe that will help the original poster.<o:p></o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em><o:p> </o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><em>Guanny says:<o:p></o:p></em></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I have a clear picture.<span>  If the original poster gives me their </span>e-mail Iâ€™ll send it.</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what to make of all the above?   Well, it is what it is.  All I have done is translate the voices of some of these angry young Chinese protesters.  One or two people posted comments on the &#8220;McDonald&#8217;s Incident&#8221; below my earlier post on the April 27 demonstration.  One commenter had even witnessed the tail end of the incident himself.  His impression was a bit different to what is described above. I thought people might be interested in reading Chinese accounts of what occurred, as well as some of the associated online discussion.</p>
<p>Personally I find the first thread disturbing.  An aggressive pregnant woman who picked a fight and clearly came off second best has netizens fantasizing about taking to her with iron bars? While the second thread was not as bad, it is a concern to see certain posters circulating information to help identify an pregnant woman that other posters are talking about seriously assaulting.  Austin is one of the only voices suggesting that people are starting to go crazy.</p>
<p>The complete lack of empathy for non-Chinese is strange. The poster J2Lane says &#8220;at least nobody got hurt&#8221;, then immediately talks about getting a better weapon. The message seems to be that it only matters when Chinese people get hurt. Non-Chinese must be dealt to severely.</p>
<p>Overall, the desire of many posters to create an anti-Chinese racist bogey-woman out of this street person is weird.  Why did so few of them dismiss her as an annoying piece of lowlife?  How did she become the most talked about topic of the week following the demonstration on April 27?</p>
<p>Perhaps the CIA paid her to throw that paper cup?</p>
<p>UPDATE: There are many comments below accusing me of misleading people with an inaccurate translation.  I already noted my translation was &#8216;rough&#8217;;  I am not a professional translator.  However, I do not accept that my translation was misleading or inaccurate.  Anyone who can read Chinese can judge for themselves.  The critics are making fools of themselves.</p>
<p>Complete screenshots from thread 1 (first translation above).  The final two or three posts (the ones after j2lane&#8217;s last post) do not have associated screen shots &#8211; they had no very meaningful content anyway.  You have to click on each image to magnify it and view the text:</p>
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<p>Selected screenshots from thread 2 (second translation above &#8211; includes only selected posts, as explained already).  The posts by Xiaofan are not included in the screen shots below (the first one was too long to fit into a screen shot, and for some reason I don&#8217;t have the second either). I originally skipped translation of the first line of Austin&#8217;s post.  To be honest I didn&#8217;t quite get his point.  In the first sentence he says that the people who rushed across the street to help did so despite not knowing each other or the person they were helping.  He says they intervened to &#8220;fight for a good cause&#8221;, this last being a concept that he claims does not exist in New Zealand.  It seemed too weird to bother with, and since I already said I was only selecting parts of the second thread I originally just left it off. I only mention it here to limit the ammunition available to those who are about to appear and accuse me of mistranslation:</p>
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		<title>Ugly Nationalistic Chinese Demonstration in Auckland</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 11:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[â€œKill the pig! Cut his throat! Kill the pig! Bash him in!â€ &#8211; William Golding, Lord of the Flies Sunday afternoon saw Auckland subjected to a mass display of ugly Chinese nationalism. Thousands of Chinese gathered in Aotea Square for what was billed as a â€œcelebrationâ€ to â€œsupport the Beijing Olympicsâ€ and promote â€œpeace and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><o:p></o:p><em>â€œKill the pig! Cut his throat! Kill the pig! Bash him in!â€ &#8211; William Golding, Lord of the Flies</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sunday afternoon saw <st1:city><st1:place>Auckland</st1:place></st1:city> subjected to a mass display of ugly Chinese nationalism.<span>  </span>Thousands of Chinese gathered in <st1:street><st1:address>Aotea   Square</st1:address></st1:street> for what was billed as a â€œcelebrationâ€ to â€œsupport the Beijing Olympicsâ€ and promote â€œpeace and harmonyâ€™.<span>  </span>In reality the event was clearly a political rally.<span>  </span>Olympic references were drowned out by nationalistic flag waving and chanting.<span>  </span>The chauvinistic demeanor of the majority, coupled with a lack of policing, encouraged a large and hostile minority to indulge in physical intimidation and random violence.<span>  </span>Within a few minutes of arriving at the event I was assaulted and abused, getting rescued from the hostile crowd by a protest marshal.<span>  </span>The marshal then politely asked me to leave, because the event was, in his own words, â€œnot safe for New Zealandersâ€.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So what exactly happened here?<span id="more-773"></span><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>You know that â€˜Sacred Flameâ€™ thatâ€™s been tying up the worldâ€™s police resources for the last several weeks?<span>  </span>What say we bring it to </strong><st1:country-region><st1:place><strong>New Zealand</strong></st1:place></st1:country-region><strong>?</strong><o:p><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">I first heard about this event on Thursday evening.<span>  </span>I had been reading about how the Australian leg of the Olympic torch relay had seen pro-Chinese demonstrators rampage through <st1:city><st1:place>Canberra</st1:place></st1:city> assaulting pro-Tibetan demonstrators.<span>  </span>The police were so busy protecting the Olympic flame (the â€˜sacred flameâ€™ to the Chinese) that protecting Australian citizens from violent Chinese students took a back seat.<span>  </span>Finishing that article I breathed a sigh of relief that the Olympic torch would not be coming to <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>Shortly afterwards though, while browsing the New Zealand Herald website, I read that groups within the Chinese community in Auckland had decided to organize their own â€˜Olympic Torch Relayâ€™, as part of a rally to support the Olympics.<span>  </span>In the words of Lincoln Tan from the New Zealand Herald:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">â€œ<em>Encouraged by organisers to wear red &#8211; </em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em>China</em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em>&#8216;s colour &#8211; participants, expected to number more than a thousand, will wave Chinese flags and do a mock run with a replica Olympic torch in </em><st1:street><st1:address><em>Aotea Square</em></st1:address></st1:street><em> on Sunday</em>â€<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I was stunned.<span>  </span>Given the trouble associated with the Olympic torch elsewhere in the world (see <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/article3805542.ece">here</a>, <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080425/wl_asia_afp/chinaunresttibetrightsoly2008torchjapan">here</a> and especially <a href="http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/04/117_23257.html">here</a>), why would the local Chinese community choose this moment to organize a nationalistic flag waving rally centered around a â€˜mock Olympic torchâ€™?<span>  </span>The event was not even organized by radical students.<span>  </span>It was organized by numerous Chinese community groups, and following consultation with the Chinese consulate.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have nothing against Chinese community events to promote the Olympics.<span>  </span><st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> is the Olympic host.<span>  </span><st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> has a large Chinese community.<span>  </span>New Zealanders are enthusiastic about sport.<span>  </span>There should be huge potential for the Chinese community in <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> to organize Olympics related events.<span>  </span>Such events could have all sorts of positive spin-offs.<span>  </span>But was this event really going to be about the Olympics?<span>  </span>Was it going to be a positive Olympic promotion or a negative nationalistic display?<span>  </span>It sounded like the latter.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Chinese Rally to â€œCelebrate the Olympicsâ€</strong><o:p><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sunday arrived and I headed to <st1:street><st1:address>Aotea   Square</st1:address></st1:street> to see things for myself, reaching the square just after <st1:time hour="12" minute="0">midday</st1:time>.<span>  </span>I was not surprised to find a noisy crowd of several thousand people waving big People&#8217;s Republic of China flags; they had been audible as far away as Albert Park.<span>  </span>The crowd was almost exclusively ethnic Chinese.<span>  </span>A full range of ages was represented, from children to the elderly.<span>  </span>However, the majority were young Chinese from the PRC, many of them students.<span>  </span>I could surmise this from languages spoken, accents, dress, use of simplified characters on their banners, etc.<span>  </span>I saw no Hong Kongese or Taiwanese flags.<span>  </span>Nor did I see any flags of the South East Asian nations that contribute to <st1:city><st1:place>Auckland</st1:place></st1:city>â€™s diverse Chinese population, places like <st1:country-region><st1:place>Singapore</st1:place></st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region><st1:place>Malaysia</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>Indonesia</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>There were a few <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> flags, but virtually no non-Chinese participants.<span>  </span>This appeared to be more a Peopleâ€™s Republic of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> event than a wider Chinese community event.<span>  </span>There were occasional Olympic flags, but essentially the flags were all national flags of the Peopleâ€™s Republic of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>There appeared to be no presence of Tibetan demonstrators, and nor were there any police.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Many people carried banners.<span>  </span>The banner messages were mixed.<span>  </span>There were many pure Olympic slogans.<span>  </span>There were also many nationalistic and chauvinistic slogans that alienated certain groups and made them feel unwelcome at this â€œOlympic Celebrationâ€.<span>  </span>Some slogans were alienating even to other ethnic Chinese.<span>  </span>â€œOne World, One Dream, One Chinaâ€ is a strange and contradictory slogan that links the Olympics to militarism.<span>  </span>Until <st1:city><st1:place>Beijing</st1:place></st1:city> renounces the use of force to impose its â€œOne Chinaâ€ ideology on <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region>, banners reading â€œOne Chinaâ€ will be read as threatening.<span>  </span>Blame <st1:city><st1:place>Beijing</st1:place></st1:city> for this unfortunate situation.<span>  </span>â€œOppose Tibetan Independenceâ€ is a political slogan that would make some ethnic Tibetans feel unwelcome and uncomfortable.<span>  </span>â€œThe Dalai Lama is a Liar!â€ is hostile, offensive to followers of Lamaism, and has nothing to do with the Olympics.<span>  </span>â€œSeeing <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>â€™s powerful position, do you feel trepidation?â€ is unrelated to the Olympics or any current issue and can only be read as an odd attempt to intimidate non-Chinese.<span>  </span>â€œOppose <st1:place>Western  Media</st1:place> Distortion!â€ sounds angry, inconsistent with a &#8220;celebration&#8221;, and unrelated to the Olympics.<span>  </span>&#8220;Don&#8217;t politicize the Olympics&#8221; is a tricky one.  Beijing boycotted every Olympics prior to 1979 over the Taiwan issue and currently humiliates Taiwanese athletes by preventing them from competing under their own flag. For as long as the ritual humiliation of Taiwan continues it seems ironic for citizens of the Peoples Republic of China to call for a non-politicized Olympics.  I am not certain, but I believe the PRC has boycotted more Olympics than any other nation. Could there be a dash of hypocrisy here? The mixture of positive Olympics slogans and chauvinistic negativity was bizarre.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I snapped a couple of pictures of <st1:street><st1:address>Aotea   Square</st1:address></st1:street> filled with red flags and political banners.  Unfortunately the movement of so many flags seemed to confuse my camera, meaning my pictures did not turn out.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>â€˜Tibetan Splittistsâ€™ threaten the fun!<span>  </span>Vigilant patriots save the day!</strong><o:p><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">Taking the scene in, I saw somebody was addressing the crowd from the <st1:place><st1:placename>Aotea</st1:placename> <st1:placetype>Center</st1:placetype></st1:place>.<span>  </span>I was about to move in that direction, but then I realized that the focus really seemed to be outside the Town Hall.<span>  </span>The words of the speaker at the <st1:place><st1:placename>Aotea</st1:placename>  <st1:placetype>Center</st1:placetype></st1:place> were drowned out by the crowd near the Town Hall chanting â€˜Go China!â€™ (<span style="font-family: SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">ä¸­åœ‹åŠ æ²¹ï¼</span>).<span>  </span>The national anthem of the Peopleâ€™s Republic of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> was being sung.<span>  </span>People appeared more densely crowded near the Town Hall than anywhere else.<span>  </span>That area was the focus of something important that I could not see.<span>  </span>I briefly saw a Tibetan Snow Lion flag flash through the Chinese ones, carrying writing too small to read. No Tibetan demonstrators were visible though.<span>  </span>What was happening?<span>  </span>Perhaps the demonstrators were about to burn a Tibetan flag?<span>  </span>Perhaps the Tibetan flag was being held by Chinese and carried a pro-China message? <span> </span>Maybe a Chinese demonstrator was making some kind of conciliatory gesture*?<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I went to investigate the Town Hall area before venturing across to the <st1:place><st1:placename>Aotea</st1:placename> <st1:placetype>Center</st1:placetype></st1:place>.<span>  </span>Rather than approaching directly and getting stuck in the mass of people I took a circuitous route through the thinner parts of the crowd, trying to get a clearer view of the situation.<span>  </span>My route took me into the middle of <st1:street><st1:address>Aotea   Square</st1:address></st1:street> and then towards the back of the Town Hall.<span>  </span>From my new vantage point I saw that pro-China demonstrators were using their flags to cover a small group of pro-Tibet demonstrators.<span>  </span>I still could not actually see the pro-Tibet demonstrators, but people around me were shouting â€œCover their flags!â€, â€œGood job!â€ and so on.<span>  </span>This was not an organized chant, just many people shouting more or less the same thing.<span>  </span>I now partly understood the situation.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I still had many questions though.<span>  </span>The focus of this drama was a raised stone platform suitable for addressing a crowd, displaying flags, and so on.<span>  </span>Why were the Chinese all crowded around this platform when the speaker and main stage were on the opposite side of the square?<span>  </span>Had the organizers arranged things so that the rally had two separate focal points?<span>  </span>Were different Chinese groups simultaneously organizing different activities in competition with one another?<span>  </span>Maybe the â€˜Olympic flameâ€™ was about to be carried from this point to the main stage?<span>  </span>Why had the Tibetan protesters climbed onto the platform that was the focus of the Chinese rally?<span>  </span>Couldnâ€™t they have politely protested somewhere around the edge of the crowd instead of rudely pushing their way right to the middle of it?<span>  </span>I wanted to ask the Tibetan protesters what was going on but there was no way to get close.<span>  </span>I also wanted to ask a Chinese demonstrator how the Tibetans had got there, but it seemed imprudent to try questioning the hostile and excited individuals around me.<span>  </span>I assumed there would be an opportunity to ask later.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Things got more intense as I watched.<span>  </span>The Tibetan flags disappeared completely.<span>  </span>The crowd cheered.<span>  </span>People shouted things like â€œDrive them away! Beat them up! We donâ€™t want them!â€<span>  </span>I saw a Tibetan protester for the first time.<span>  </span>He was a shaved headed westerner, squatted on the ground, either with his fingers in his ears or using his hands to protect his head.<span>  </span>The crowd surged around him and he disappeared.<span>  </span>In the brief second he was visible I did not see him get hit. He did not seem to be crouched down in pain, just in reaction to a hazardous situation.<span>  </span>I saw no more Tibetans and things up on the platform calmed down slightly.<span>  </span>I assumed that the Tibetans had somehow left the platform (driven away, leaving themselves, or rescued by police).<span>  </span>I was concerned for their safety, but since the dynamic of the crowd on the platform became less violent after the Tibetans vanished (changing from struggling to flag waving) I assumed they had escaped and were not somewhere in the middle of the crowd getting bashed.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Getting assaulted â€œOlympic Celebrationâ€ style</strong><o:p><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">At that moment I spotted a Tibetan flag on the ground a few meters from me.<span>  </span>Presumably it had just been stolen from the Tibetan protesters.<span>  </span>People were pushing forward to trample on it.<span>  </span>I followed the press, holding back somewhat, and pulled my camera out to snap this image, an obvious focus for anyone holding a camera.<span>  </span>As I tried to take my photo somebody kicked me from behind.<span>  </span>I also felt I was punched.  Somebody seemed to be trying to snatch my camera.  Events were confused, with various people grabbing and shoving me.  A Chinese marshal of some sort intervened and started to pull me out of the demonstration.<span>  </span>I am confused about exactly what happened, but the marshalâ€™s intervention in itself confirmed that I was a focus of hostility and at physical risk.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As the marshal pulled me out I became surrounded by people screaming â€œFuck off!â€, &#8220;Fuck you!&#8221;, &#8220;Fuck your Mother!&#8221; etc.<span>  </span>The abuse was in non-native English and Chinese.<span>  </span>The abusers must have been relatively recent arrivals from <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>I tried asking in Chinese for everybody to calm down, hoping that using their own language might make them see me less as an â€˜enemyâ€™ and more as a human being they could converse with.  This had no effect though. The marshal had steered me up against the wall of the Town Hall, protecting our backs and preventing the crowd from surrounding us. He then moved me along the wall and out of the crowd. There were big cheers as the marshal finally led me away from the crowd and towards the back door of the Town Hall.  The marshal told me not to go back into <st1:street><st1:address>Aotea Square</st1:address></st1:street> because it was not safe for &#8216;New Zealanders&#8217;.<span>  </span>I guess he really meant &#8216;non-Chinese people&#8217;.</p>
<p><strong>Media stardom and meeting my fans</strong></p>
<p>The attack was partly caught on film by a cameraman from SODE Productions (a local Chinese media company).  The cameraman then continued filming me after I was driven out of the crowd.<span>  </span>He filmed me answering questions from a couple of concerned passers by, then phoning police to report the assault.<span>  </span>Although the assault was minor in the sense that I was not hurt, it was significant in that it indicated an aggressive and out-of-control crowd.<span>  </span>Therefore I wanted to report it officially.<span>  </span>No police were available at the time though.<span>  </span>The cameraman turned out to be quite amiable, and we chatted while I decided whether to continue waiting for the police or just give up and leave.  The footage he took may appear in a documentary about the event.</p>
<p>After maybe ten minutes the cameraman suggested going back to the crowd to attempt a â€˜reconciliationâ€™.<span>  </span>I had mixed feelings about this.<span>  </span>There was a safety issue, an issue of disobeying the marshal, and questions about the real purpose of it all.<span>  </span>In the end I decided there was no harm in going along with his proposal.<span>  </span>I doubted we would achieve much, but assuming I didnâ€™t get assaulted again it seemed as good a way as any to spend my time.<span>  </span>Many attendees had previously been passionately â€˜communicatingâ€™ with me. Perhaps I should give them the opportunity to express themselves more calmly.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The â€˜reconciliationâ€™ never quite got into gear.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To get things rolling, I had to demonstrate that I was not a â€œTibetan splittistâ€ by letting everyone see that the T-shirt beneath my leather jacket was not the dreaded Snow Lion Flag.<span>  </span>Making things interesting, my T-shirt turned out to carry the equally alarming Republic of China (i.e. â€˜Taiwaneseâ€™) flag [NOTE: <em>In response to some comments made below I should emphasize that </em><em>this t-shirt was never visible prior to my unbuttoning my jacket and showing it to the cameraman. There was therefore no connection between this t-shirt and my being assaulted. I was not "asking for trouble" as some have suggested. I had in fact done the opposite and covered up a potentially sensitive article of clothing.</em>].<span>  </span>Adding to the confusion, the T-shirt itself was purchased at the <st1:place><st1:placename>Flying</st1:placename>  <st1:placename>Tigers</st1:placename> <st1:placetype>Museum</st1:placetype></st1:place> in <st1:place><st1:city>Chongqing</st1:city>, <st1:country-region>China</st1:country-region></st1:place>, and carried text from a pilotâ€™s blood chit that specifically asked Chinese people to assist this foreign ally (you can see the design <a href="http://bunnyhugs.org/2008/03/19/the-flying-tiger/#more-725">on this page</a>).<span>  </span>Clearly I was not a member of the mysterious â€œDalai Lama Cliqueâ€, but was I some other, equally pernicious, variety of â€œsplittistâ€?<span>  </span>Would the <st1:place><st1:placename>Flying</st1:placename>  <st1:placename>Tigers</st1:placename> <st1:placetype>Museum</st1:placetype></st1:place> really dare hatch an audacious plot (albeit doomed) to split the motherland through subversive t-shit designs?<span>  </span>Could I merely be a souvenir buyer?<span>  </span>How much assistance should they give me anyway?<span>  </span>Somehow they accepted the T-shirt and a fresh round of anti-splittist violence was averted.<span>  We were making progress</span>.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately, those who had earlier been most eager to communicate with me (i.e. those who had abused me the loudest), were uninterested in civilized communication.  I only remember one of them, a middle aged man, asking me a question. His question was &#8220;Have you ever even been to <st1:country-region><st1:place>Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region>?&#8221;<span>  </span>I tried to explain that although I had not been to the Tibetan Autonomous Region, I had visited â€˜Greater Tibetâ€™, the culturally Tibetan area that extends into <st1:state><st1:place>Gansu</st1:place></st1:state>, <st1:state><st1:place>Sichuan</st1:place></st1:state>, and <st1:state><st1:place>Qinghai</st1:place></st1:state>.<span>  </span>The man scoffed and turned his back before I could finish the first sentence.<span>  </span>Another individual, a woman of around 50 years old, notable earlier for her passionate screams of â€˜Fuck your mother!â€™, offered a small Chinese flag as a sort of peace offering.<span>  </span>I declined the flag**.<span>  </span>Interestingly, neither of these individuals were fiery young students.<span>  </span>They were both middle aged &#8211; old enough to have little excuse for their earlier lack of self control.<span>  </span>There were too many people to interact with simultaneously.  They were also all holding back and fairly uncommunicative, presumably out of embarrassment, hostility, nervousness at being on camera, or the dynamics of them being a â€˜crowdâ€™ while I was an individual.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have probably missed some things that were said, but the reconciliation attempt did not achieve much beyond letting them see I was not hiding a Tibetan flag under my jacket.<span>  </span>Of course, so what if I had been?<span>  </span>Anyway, it was good to have at least tried to talk.<span>  </span>Personally I could have tried harder, but given the hostility I had just experienced I was not feeling particularly sociable.<span>  </span>I more or less just put myself in front of them, put the ball in their court, and let them do what they wanted. They offered nothing much in the way of an apology, interest in me quickly died, and after a couple of minutes I left.<span>  </span>The group I spoke with was not identical to the group that attacked me, though it included at least three individuals from the earlier attack.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>The Aftermath</strong><o:p><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">Saying goodbye to the cameraman I walked away via the back of the Town Hall and towards <st1:street><st1:address>Mayoral Drive</st1:address></st1:street>.<span>  </span>This route took me away from where I was ultimately headed, but it seemed foolhardy to go back through the square alone. <span> </span>A solitary policeman came hurrying down from <st1:street><st1:address>Mayoral Drive</st1:address></st1:street> as I left.<span>  </span>I asked if he could take my assault complaint.<span>  </span>He told me that he had more urgent things to do and jogged towards the crowd looking stressed.<span></span><o:p><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">I headed home.<span>  </span>Unfortunately I did not get a chance to hear the speakers or see the â€œOlympic torchâ€.<span>  </span>I guess I was in the square for less than ten minutes before getting attacked.<span>  </span>Walking home I avoided eye contact with Chinese people, not wanting to get involved in further trouble.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">After I reached home a friend of mine called, wanting to meet up and get something to eat.<span>  </span>I took the car out and drove along <st1:street><st1:address>Queen Street</st1:address></st1:street> to meet him.<span>  </span>It was after <st1:time minute="0" hour="14">2.00 pm</st1:time> by this stage.<span>  </span>Queen Street was filled with convoys of Chinese in souped-up cars, blaring their horns, waving flags, screaming, disobeying police directing traffic, and generally creating a disturbance.<span>  </span>Chinese pedestrians occupied the pavement, waving flags and cheering the disruptive behavior of the convoys of cars.<span>  </span>I was happy to be alone in my car and not sharing the pavement with the flag wavers.<span>  </span>I picked up my friend on <st1:street><st1:address>Queen Street</st1:address></st1:street> and we went off for lunch.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Violence</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Based on news reports, posts on Sky Kiwi, and my own experiences, the day was marred by multiple instances of violence.<span>  </span>The following is a quick summary:</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Violence against the small group of four Tibetan protesters.<span>  </span>There was clearly a lot of shoving and physical intimidation.<span>  </span>One Network News showed a Chinese protester swinging punches at a Tibetan protester.<span>  </span>However, no Tibetan protesters were reported to have required medical treatment.<span>  </span>Overall it seems Chinese marshals prevented the violent crowd from causing serious harm.<span>  </span>There were no arrests.</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Unprovoked violence against myself as detailed above.<span>  </span>There were no arrests.</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->An incident reported by and involving a non-Chinese builder.<span>  </span>Details are not clear but it seems the builder intervened to stop protesters attacking a car (they were rocking the car and pushing flag poles through the windows).  The builder and his car then became victims of an attack.<span>  </span>There were apparently no arrests.</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->An attack by a Chinese female on a taxi.<span>  </span>This seems to be a separate incident to the above.<span>  </span>In this incident a taxi driver shouted comments in support of <st1:country-region><st1:place>Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region> and in response his car was attacked and apparently damaged by a Chinese female.<span>  </span>The assailant was detained by the police and released with a warning.<span>  </span>The driver was not compensated for damage to his car.</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->An assault on a non-protesting Tibetan sympathizer.<span>  </span>A man called into a radio station and described being shoved around and struck in the face with flag poles when he attempted dialog with Chinese protesters.<span>  </span>There were no arrests.</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->An incident outside McDonalds on <st1:street><st1:address>Queen   Street</st1:address></st1:street>, in which Chinese protesters were verbally harassed and physically assaulted (having their glasses knocked off) by two or three female Polynesians.<span>  </span>The Chinese on non-Chinese violence was ostensibly political.<span>  </span>This incident sounds racist, probably an ugly reaction to all the Chinese flags.<span>  </span>A European man participating in the Chinese protest (his face painted with Chinese flags) intervened by physically assaulting the Polynesians.<span>  </span>Read translations of Chinese accounts of this incident <a href="http://bunnyhugs.org/2008/05/05/more-on-the-mcdonalds-incident/#more-775">here</a>. Two of the three arrests made on the day were for this incident, and seem to have involved the Polynesian assailants. The assailants were charged with assault.</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->There seems to have been a third arrest, involving a non-Chinese person, for disorderly behavior.<span>  </span>I can find no details on the incident involved.<span>  </span>It may or may not have been connected to one of the above incidents.</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->There were probably other incidents in addition to the above.<span>  </span>It would be unlikely for me to have found information on every single incident of violence.</p>
<p><o:p></o:p>So what to make of all this?<span>  </span>First, there was far more violence than occurs at most political protests, yet this was supposedly a peaceful â€œOlympic celebrationâ€.<span>  </span>The numerous posts on Sky Kiwi denying that the event was a â€˜protestâ€™ or â€˜violentâ€™ are simply untrue.<span>  </span>Second, the level of violence was astonishing given the near absence of opposing views at the event.<span>  </span>Tibetan protesters were outnumbered 1000 to 1.<span>  </span>One would have thought Chinese attendees would have been delighted at the huge turnout in support of the Olympics and the near absence of critical voices.<span>  </span>It is difficult to understand why they began assaulting bystanders who expressed pro-Tibetan views (e.g. the taxi driver), or who they thought might be pro-Tibet (e.g. myself).<span>  </span>The number of violent incidents, all occurring in separate locations, indicates a substantial minority of violent and aggressive â€œOlympics supportersâ€ who were thirsting for conflict.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Policing</strong><o:p><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">So where were the police?<span>  </span>The real Olympic flame has created mountains of policing work around the world, yet when the Chinese community decides to import this style of fun to New Zealand by organizing a nationalist rally with accompanying â€˜Olympic flameâ€™ there is not a policeman in sight.<span>  </span>The lack of a police presence made an odd contrast to the recent protests against the Electoral Financing Act, which saw a huge police presence line <st1:street><st1:address>Queen   Street</st1:address></st1:street> to control a docile gaggle of retirees.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The timing of the rally could hardly have been more sensitive.<span>  </span>The event was being held months before the Olympics (making it hard for many to appreciate the Olympic connection), weeks after the signing of the controversial Free Trade Agreement with China (opposed by many New Zealanders), and just days after the Canberra torch relay (which saw numerous assaults by aggressive Chinese students).<span>  </span>There was clearly huge potential for trouble.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A private company called The Edge, which manages the <st1:place><st1:placename>Aotea</st1:placename>  <st1:placetype>Center</st1:placetype></st1:place> and <st1:street><st1:address>Aotea   Square</st1:address></st1:street>, was responsible for the event.<span>  </span>I have spoken with their security manager.<span>  </span>Apparently they were not expecting such large numbers, and on seeing the turnout they requested police backup that never arrived.<span>  </span>At least one of the Edge security personnel was in <st1:street><st1:address>Aotea Square</st1:address></st1:street> throughout the event and says he never saw a policeman.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Edge may have failed to arrange police assistance, but the police themselves were also at fault.  On the Friday before the protest the police were quoted as saying that they were aware of the protest and had â€œcontingencies in place should there be any troubleâ€.<span>  The police knew the event was happening and knew what had just occurred in Canberra. The police </span>know the Auckland CBD has a huge population of Chinese students.  The police have personnel monitoring websites like Sky Kiwi and presumably sensing the anger and extremism of Chinese students in New Zealand.  There was plenty of trouble and the police were absent.<span>  </span>The police and the mayor of <st1:city><st1:place>Auckland</st1:place></st1:city> failed to do their jobs.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The only security personnel that I saw were Chinese marshals, though personnel from The Edge were apparently also present.<span>  </span>The marshals did a good job in terms of protecting targets of violence, but of course had no power to arrest perpetrators.<span>  Their actions </span>prevented things from escalating further and nobody suffered serious harm.<span>  </span>However, the message seemed to be that pro-China thuggery was acceptable within certain limits.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Criticisms of the Event<o:p> </o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Overall, I think the event was an embarrassment to citizens of the Peopleâ€™s Republic of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> in <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>Rather than feeling proud of attracting a large crowd, the PRC community should feel ashamed at the nature of the crowd.<span>  </span>The crowd was chauvinistic, and many were disruptive, aggressive and violent.<span>  </span>Imagine thousands of Korean students descending on <st1:place>Tiananmen Square</st1:place> for a display like this and you will understand how it looked to outsiders.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Some people will be reading this and thinking I have been biased by my own negative experience.<span>  </span>Of course that experience has influenced my thinking.<span>  </span>However, I am not too concerned about what happened to me; it involved only a small segment of the crowd and would not have been noticed by most attendees.<span>  </span>I am more concerned with how the crowd behaved towards the Tibetan protesters.<span></span><o:p><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">Admittedly, I do not really know what happened here.<span>  </span>However, looking back, I doubt the raised platform on which the Tibetans were standing was being used in the formal proceedings of the Chinese event.<span>  </span>My guess is that Chinese attendees crowded towards that area in response to the Tibetan presence.<span>  </span>I may be wrong, but my reading is that hundreds of Chinese ignored invited speakers at their own event in favor of taunting and assaulting four Tibetan protesters.<span>  </span>The official speakers were made inaudible by the people screaming at the Tibetans.<span>  </span>I do not understand this behavior.<span>  </span>The protesters were positioned such that anyone focused on the stage would have had their backs to them â€“ they were at the â€˜back of the hallâ€™ so to speak.<span>  </span>Why were hundreds of attendees incapable of just ignoring them?<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The organizers should be embarrassed at the conduct of this very large group.<span>  </span>Why bother with speeches if nobody wants to listen?<span>  </span>Why not just bill the event as â€œSmash up the <st1:city><st1:place>LV</st1:place></st1:city> store to celebrate the Olympicsâ€ and be done with it?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Discussion of the event on Chinese websites<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Much of the online discussion of the event on Sky Kiwi (<st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region>â€™s leading online community for Chinese) has been concerning.<span>  </span>There have been calls for larger and more extreme actions, celebrations of the violence that occurred on Sunday, and plenty of hostility towards <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span> </span>Nationalistic extremism was the dominant voice in the lead up to and immediate aftermath of the event.<span>  </span>To be fair, more moderate voices are emerging now that several days have passed.  People have perhaps had time to do some thinking and realize that things got out of hand.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Alongside the calls for more violence, there has been some &#8220;anti-violence&#8221; rhetoric.<span>  </span>For example, users have been asked not to post photos of scuffles and assaults.<span>  </span>The purpose of the request is unclear though.<span>  </span>Is it to hide previous violence (and perhaps protect the perpetrators) or discourage future violence?<span>  </span>An acquaintance of mine went on to Sky Kiwi to question the violent nature of the rally (I am banned from the site ever since I questioned an earlier demonstration, as you can read about <a href="http://bunnyhugs.org/2008/03/29/chinese-students-protest-%e2%80%98biased%e2%80%99-new-zealand-media-%e2%80%98unbiased%e2%80%99-online-chinese-media-bans-new-zealand-netzien-for-questioning-chinese-student-protest-irony-ensues/#more-733">here </a>and <a href="http://bunnyhugs.org/2008/04/02/chinese-nationalist-protesters-and-chinese-online-media-in-new-zealand-the-saga-continuies/">here</a>).<span>  </span>Initially most respondents either told him there had been no violence, or that the violence was â€˜Chinese expressing themselvesâ€™ and locals should shut up and accept it. Slowly, he started to attract some supportive or at least sympathetic responses.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Scofflaws have celebrated their actions online and received unanimous praise.<span>  </span>For example, the female who attacked a taxi and apparently damaged its door is being treated as a hero.<span>  </span>She has attracted dozens of messages praising her patriotism and holding her up as a role model.<span>  </span>Not a single person has suggested she overreacted and broke the law.<span>  </span>However, one or two people have hinted at tracking down the taxi driver and taking further action against him.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hopefully an opinion shift is occurring towards less violent attitudes.<span>  </span>You seriously have to wonder if <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> needs this type of minority community.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Positive Comments about the Event</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A few comments on a more positive note:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- Apparently attendees were very efficient in cleaning rubbish up.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- Everybody seemed to know the words to the Chinese national anthem, yet even the All Blacks mumble their way through the <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> anthem.<span>  </span>I am not sure thousands of people gathering in one place to sing the anthem of a foreign country for no obvious reason is a good idea â€“ particularly when the anthem involves â€œrising upâ€ to â€œbrave the enemyâ€™s gunfireâ€ &#8211; but least they sang it well.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- Despite all the trouble large numbers of people managed to ignore the Tibetan demonstrators.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Suggestions for Future Olympic Events<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Before making any suggestions I should first note that I am not very interested in the Olympics.<span>  </span>My lack of creativity below can be attributed partly to this.<span>  </span>For what it is worth though, here are a few ideas:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Far fewer <st1:place><st1:placename>Peoples</st1:placename>  <st1:placetype>Republic</st1:placetype></st1:place> of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> flags: Large groups simply should not wave national flags in other peopleâ€™s countries.<span>  </span>The smaller the group the more acceptable the behavior.<span>  </span>The behavior is more acceptable from visiting sports fans since their presence is temporary and their intent is non-political.  For similar reasons the behavior is more acceptable for short events like football matches.<span>  </span>The Olympics do not lend themselves very well to flag waving.<span>  </span>The competition continues for weeks, and the emphasis is supposed to be on individual competition, not national rivalries.<span>  </span>Even were the Olympics in progress, Sundayâ€™s display would have been over the top, but the Olympics are still months away.<span>  </span>Large numbers of New Zealand citizens or permanent residents gathering to wave foreign flags is rather odd.<span>  </span>International students doing it is just rude.</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Far more non-Chinese attendees: Achieving this might be very difficult.<span>  </span>How many locals would want to be part of an event like that on Sunday?<span>  </span>Were they even invited?<span>  </span>Would they have been welcome?<span>  </span>I have no concrete suggestions on how to achieve larger numbers of non-Chinese attendees.<span> Obviously the </span>key is a more welcoming attitude and less alienating behavior.<span>  </span>If more non-Chinese attendees could be attracted it would create a better impression and help keep the focus on the Olympics rather than politics.  Also, if politics really must be involved in an Olympic event, surely the clever  way of winning support from the wider community would be to attract non-Chinese to the event and then gently try to influence their opinions (e.g. distribute leaflets, through speeches, etc.).</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Creative choice of â€˜Chineseâ€™ flags: Huge numbers of Peopleâ€™s Republic of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> flags can appear alienating, but there are lots of other â€˜Chineseâ€™ flags to choose from.<span>  </span>Examples include Qing dragon banners, and flags of the Hong Kong SAR, the 1911 Republic, and the Republic of China (i.e. â€˜<st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region>â€™).<span>  </span>Banners of Chinese sports groups are another idea.<span>  </span>Even the Snow Lion should not be a problem for people that genuinely believe <st1:country-region><st1:place>Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region> is part of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Get rid of the <span style="font-family: SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">ä¸­åœ‹åŠ æ²¹ï¼</span>(Go China!) slogan.<span>  </span>In the absence of any obvious focus (what exactly is <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> being encouraged to do here?) it sounds hostile.</p>
<p><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> </span></span></span>Don&#8217;t overdo the national anthem.<span>  </span>Given that the PRC anthem is essentially a call to war, full of references to advancing on the enemy and so on, a little sensitivity is appropriate.  There is also a difference between singing the anthem to mark the start of an event, and singing it to celebrate a crowd of four thousand successfully assaulting four lonely protesters.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Concluding Thoughts<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have written quite a lot.<span>  </span>Hopefully, most people reading will find something of value.<span>  </span>I doubt I will attend future Olympics related events in <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>The politicization, nationalism, and hostility against non-Chinese are far too extreme.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">UPDATE (16/06/2008):Â  Nearly two months have now passed since the incident.Â  At the time the cameraman who filmed me getting assaulted offered to put his footage online (and perhaps gather other footage) in order to help identify the people who assaulted me.Â  I took his offer at face value, considering it a kind and genuine gesture.Â  Unfortunately, despite me gently following the matter up he has never followed through on his promise.Â  There was always a possibility that the company he worked for would not release the footage.Â  However, according to the cameraman himself the company agreed to allow the footage to be used but he decided himself against helping me.Â  His rationale is that the Sichuan Earthquake made it inappropriate.Â  I don&#8217;t quite get the reasoning behind this, though it appears to be another variation on the &#8216;china as victim&#8217; world view.Â  An earthquake in Sichuan makes it OK for Chinese (many of them visitors to New Zealand) to assault non-Chinese New Zealanders.Â  Or if the behavior isn&#8217;t quite acceptable it still isn&#8217;t appropriate to question it.Â  He suggested that I attend a Sichuan Earthquake benefit event and ask the organizers there to help me.Â  Umm. . . I don&#8217;t think so.Â  We either go with the original agreement or you go fuck yourself.Â  All of my friends told me not to believe this guy.Â  I guess I should have listened to them not him.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* The Snow Lion Flag is an ancient Tibetan symbol but variations were used even under Qing Imperial rule.<span>  </span>While the present version of the Snow Lion Flag dates from the period of Tibetan de facto independence following the Qing, there is no real reason that appropriate use of a Snow Lion Flag should be inconsistent with being a loyal citizen of the PRC.<span>  </span>The flag is illegal in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>, but <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> is not <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>Setting the legality issue aside, how is a Chinese citizen using a Snow Lion Flag any different from a New Zealand citizen using the Flag of the Independent Tribes of New Zealand, or the Tino Rangatiratanga flag?<span>  </span>It would be nice if 21<sup>st</sup> Century citizens of the PRC could treat the Snow Lion Flag as graciously as the 19<sup>th</sup> Century Manchurians did.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">** Turning down gifts is rude.<span>  </span>However, I felt it would be inappropriate to accept the flag.<span>  </span>First, I was at the event to observe only.<span>  </span>Given the political nature of the event I was not interested in becoming a participant.<span>  </span>Second, there was no need for another person carrying a Chinese flag at that moment â€“ Chinese flags were everywhere!<span>  </span>I have nothing against Chinese flags, and in the right circumstances I might carry one (e.g. at a football match where I was supporting the Chinese team).<span>  </span>I make an exception to the above for really cool Chinese flags â€“ e.g. Qing battle standards or the flag of the 1911 Republic.</span></p>
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		<title>Chinese nationalist protesters and Chinese online media in New Zealand: the saga continuies</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing about cocktails here, so skip this post unless you are having trouble sleeping. . . Following up on my earlier post on the Chinese protests in relation to Tibet, there have been some further developments in the whole Chinese protesters and Chinese online media saga. - After coming home from the protest [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left" align="left">There is nothing about cocktails here, so skip this post unless you are having trouble sleeping. . .</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left" align="left">Following up on my earlier <a href="http://bunnyhugs.org/2008/03/29/chinese-students-protest-%e2%80%98biased%e2%80%99-new-zealand-media-%e2%80%98unbiased%e2%80%99-online-chinese-media-bans-new-zealand-netzien-for-questioning-chinese-student-protest-irony-ensues/">post on the Chinese protests in relation to Tibet</a>, there have been some further developments in the whole Chinese protesters and Chinese online media saga.<span id="more-746"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in" align="left"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 12pt"><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->After coming home from the protest on Saturday afternoon I rang the offices of Sky Kiwi to try and find out the reasons for my banning.<span>  </span>Having had my IP address blocked it was not possible to look to the site itself for help.<span>  </span>I was given the mobile number of a Sarah Li, who seems to run Sky Kiwi.<span>  </span>I left a detailed message regarding the situation with the man who answered her mobile (she herself was apparently sick).<span>  </span>I told him I wanted to know why I had been banned from the site.<span>  </span>Had I offended some part of their terms of service?<span>  </span>Had there simply been a mistake?<span>  </span>I emphasized the irony of the situation and said that I hoped they would get back to me soon.<span>  The man </span>promised to have Sarah call me back as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in" align="left"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 12pt"><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->On Sunday violent threats against me appeared on the site.<span>  </span>Netizens talked of tracking me down and arranging to have me â€˜fucked upâ€™<st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-size: 12pt"></span></st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>Other netizens discussed my identity, describing the clothes I had been wearing at the protest and thus making me easily identifiable from photographs posted online. Ironically, while some members of the community discussed my identity, potentially with a view to facilitating my assault, other members of the community were very concerned to protect the identity of the Tibetan, in case his family were assaulted.<span>  </span><st1:country-region><st1:place>You need to understand that Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region> is <a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-04/02/content_7907534.htm">an immensely happy place</a>, and things can easily turn violent when a Tibetan who is merely contented encounters a compatriot who is actually blissfully ecstatic.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in" align="left"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">         </span></span><!--[endif]-->I spent Sunday afternoon making numerous phone calls to get the threats removed.<span>  </span>Sarah Li never answered her phone, and <span></span>nor did anyone at the other mobile numbers I was given by the office.<span>  </span>The office kept telling me to call back on Monday, but I wanted the material removed before things got out of hand.<span> In an incident a few years back (the China Bounder Affair to be precise) an acquaintance complained people visited </span>his offices in China to make threats over a similar matter. In the end a guy called Wesley decided to help.<span>  </span>It took much convincing to get him to speak English, then more convincing (including mention of police involvement if he didn&#8217;t act) to get him to actually do anything.<span>  </span>In the end though he took action and the offensive material was removed from the site within an hour or so.<span>  </span>Great job Wesley!<span>  </span>You actually did something to help.<span>  </span>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in" align="left"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">         </span></span><!--[endif]-->On Monday I had been expecting a call from Sky Kiwi (I had left enough messages by this stage).<span>  </span>No call came. <span> </span>I made a reminder call and left another message for Sarah.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in" align="left"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 12pt"><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->I left another message at the Sky Kiwi offices on Tuesday.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left" align="left"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: left" align="left"><span style="font-size: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in" align="left"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">         </span></span><!--[endif]-->On Wednesday (today) I called the Sky Kiwi offices again.<span>  </span>They told me to call Sarah.<span>  </span>I did so.<span>  </span>Surprisingly, Sarah answered her phone.<span>  </span>I briefly identified myself and asked if she had received my messages.<span>  </span>She said she had, and moreover had already returned my call.<span>  </span>This was odd since she had definitely not called me.<span>  </span>I tried to explain the situation in case she was mistaking my identity.<span>  </span>She interrupted to tell me again that she had already returned my call.<span>  </span>Then she told me I should not be calling her and that she had no obligation to return my calls.<span>  </span>She said I should deal with the matter through the site.<span>  </span>I tried to tell her that I could not do anything through the site while my IP was blocked.<span>  </span>She hung up.<span>  </span>I called back.<span>  </span>She hung up again, saying she was â€˜in a meetingâ€™.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left" align="left"><span style="font-size: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in" align="left"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 12pt"><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Having had no luck with Sarah I tried the Sky Kiwi offices again.<span>  </span>This time they told me to write them an e-mail since they could not deal with the matter by phone.<span>  </span>If they could not deal with the matter by phone then what had the last four days of taking messages been in aid of?<span>  </span>I told them this.<span> </span>They told me to write an e-mail and that whatever I wrote would be â€˜given to their lawyersâ€™.<span> </span>Really? What is going on here?<span> </span>Should this not be a simple issue of explaining their forum moderation policy to a frustrated reader/contributor.<span>  </span>I don&#8217;t want to talk with their lawyer.  I want to talk with somebody in charge and find out why a site whose members are organizing a protest against &#8216;media bias&#8217; bans the one member who asks a few thoughtful questions about that protest.  How and why does this happen?  The answer must : 1 &#8211; site moderation policy, or 2 &#8211; site bias, or 3 &#8211; a mistake by the site.  Somebody at Sky Kiwi has the answer to my question.  Can we not communicate about this simple matter without going through lawyers?<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span>At this point I have given up trying to deal with Sky Kiwi.<span>  </span>From Saturday through to Tuesday they were just uncommunicative and hard to deal with.<span>  </span>On Wednesday they turned peculiar, with Sarah lying about having called me and the desk staff talking about getting lawyers involved.<span>  I have tried to understand them.  There seems to be no point trying </span>any further.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In a side note, a New Zealand journalist told me that he had tried unsuccessfully to contact one of the protesters to follow up on Saturdayâ€™s protest.<span>  </span>The reason they didnâ€™t want to speak to him?<span>  </span>The protester felt that the journalist, as a Singaporean Chinese, was â€˜not a real Chineseâ€™.<span>  </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lets finish by analyzing this last matter.<span>  </span>A segment of the Chinese community decides to protest what they see as &#8216;western&#8217; media bias against them, a form of discrimination if you will.<span>  </span>The point of the protest is supposedly to communicate their views to mainstream society (&#8216;western&#8217; society, if you like).<span>  </span>A journalist approaches them to discuss the protest, but is rebuffed on the basis that, as a mere Singaporean Chinese, he is â€˜not a real Chineseâ€™.<span>  </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A couple of points. . . First, who is discriminating against whom here?<span>  </span>The discrimination within the Chinese community suddenly looks worse than the discrimination they are supposedly facing.<span>  </span>Second, how will the protesters communicate with mainstream society if they harbor such bigoted attitudes?<span>  </span>Are the protesters trying to engage and influence mainstream opinion (hint: this may require two-way communication), or are they just angry patriots clutching flags?</p>
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		<title>Chinese students protest â€˜biasedâ€™ New Zealand media.  â€˜Unbiasedâ€™ online Chinese media bans New Zealand netizen for questioning Chinese student protest.  Irony ensues. . .</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who has been following the recent Tibet riots will be familiar with the story. Peaceful protests in Tibet somehow become violent riots. China closes Tibet to the foreign media and issues hard-line statements about â€˜splittistsâ€™ and the â€˜Dalai Lama cliqueâ€™. The Chinese media report the story by dutifully repeating the government line. The foreign [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">Anyone who has been following the recent <st1:country-region><st1:place>Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region> riots will be familiar with the story.<span>  </span>Peaceful protests in <st1:country-region><st1:place>Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region> somehow become violent riots.<span>  </span><st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> closes <st1:country-region><st1:place>Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region> to the foreign media and issues hard-line statements about â€˜splittistsâ€™ and the â€˜Dalai Lama cliqueâ€™.<span>  </span>The Chinese media report the story by dutifully repeating the government line.<span>  </span>The foreign media report the story using the limited information and material available to them from both the Chinese and Tibetan sides.<span>  </span>Chinese citizens are unhappy with the foreign mediaâ€™s reporting of the story (or more specifically they have a gripe with the â€˜western mediaâ€™).<span>  </span>A series of several cropped and incorrectly captioned photos and segments of news footage assumes enormous importance as a demonstration of western media bias.<span>  </span>This material becomes â€˜proofâ€™ that the western media is attempting to â€˜paint <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> blackâ€™.<span>  </span>Chinese students around the world protest.<span>  </span>Exciting days indeed!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gentle readers, it was at that point that your good narrator became involved, with ironic and entertaining results.<span id="more-733"></span><span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I heard that Chinese students in <st1:city><st1:place>Auckland</st1:place></st1:city> were planning to protest western media bias, and specifically <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> media bias.<span>  </span>The <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> angle interested me because it was local, and because I had not personally noticed anything remarkable in the <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> media coverage*.<span>  </span>Therefore I looked around for details on the planned protest, and found them at <a href="http://www.skykiwi.co.nz/">www.skykiwi.co.nz</a>, <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region>â€™s largest electronic media serving a Chinese audience.<span>  </span>The protest was to be held on Saturday <st1:time minute="0" hour="12">noon</st1:time> in <st1:street><st1:address>Aotea Square</st1:address></st1:street> here in <st1:city><st1:place>Auckland</st1:place></st1:city>.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Reading through the site and sensing the anger of these young Chinese I could not help feeling a little unease.<span>  </span>I was reminded of the anti-Japanese protests (riots?) that I had attended in <st1:city><st1:place>Shanghai</st1:place></st1:city> a couple of years ago.<span>  </span>That was the only previous occasion on which I had personally witnessed a protest by educated and privileged young Chinese.<span>  The day had </span>ended with the Japanese consulate and numerous Japanese businesses seriously vandalized (in an interesting cultural aside, the mob ignored the beer fridges in the smashed up Japanese restaurants).<span>  </span>I asked myself why privileged and educated young Chinese only ever protest foreign things.<span>  </span>It appeared to me that they only ever become moved to express their views when the issue is <st1:country-region><st1:place>Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region>, or <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region>, or <st1:country-region><st1:place>Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region>, or some other perceived slight to <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rather than sit there asking myself this question, I went ahead and asked New <st1:place>Zealand</st1:place>â€™s Chinese netizens.<span>  </span>I wrote a post asking a few things.<span>  </span>I asked why their protests only ever targeted foreign things and never targeted their own government.<span>  </span>I told them that I had attended the <st1:city><st1:place>Shanghai</st1:place></st1:city> anti-Japanese protest, and that at times it had appeared like a riot.<span>  </span>I noted that Japanese in <st1:city><st1:place>Shanghai</st1:place></st1:city> had been too scared to leave their homes on that day and that numerous innocent business owners had suffered mob violence.<span>  </span>While nobody had died or been seriously hurt in the <st1:city><st1:place>Shanghai</st1:place></st1:city> demonstration, were there not some parallels between the behavior of demonstrators (rioters?) in <st1:city><st1:place>Shanghai</st1:place></st1:city> and in <st1:country-region><st1:place>Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region>?<span>  </span>Somewhat provocatively, I asked if Tiananmen had simply made educated and privileged young Chinese too afraid to protest their own government.<span>  </span>Finally, I asked when the Chinese media was going to ask the Chinese government to produce proof to back its allegations that the DL orchestrated the <st1:city><st1:place>Lhasa</st1:place></st1:city> riots.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The response was interesting.<span>  </span>Various posters attacked me as a â€˜foreign devilâ€™ (<span style="font-family: SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">æ´‹é¬¼å­</span>) and a â€˜foreign pigâ€™ (<span style="font-family: SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">æ´‹è±¬</span>).<span>  </span>Others apparently believed I was a Chinese pretending to be a foreigner and called me a â€˜fake foreign devilâ€™ (<span style="font-family: SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">å‡æ´‹é¬¼</span>).<span>  </span>The thread I had started was swiftly locked and I received a disciplinary message.<span>  </span>The message gave no explanation of why the thread had been locked, but did suggest that I was not welcome on the site and should leave.<span>  </span>I do not know if the people who abused me also received disciplinary messages.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I started another thread to ask why my previous thread had been locked.<span>  </span>Provoked by this stage, I sarcastically suggested that the protesters were just mindlessly trotting out the party line in the manner of the Cultural Revolution period.<span>  </span>Specifically, I took the piss with a wisecrack about them being â€˜good children of Chairman Maoâ€™ (<span style="font-family: SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">æ¯›ä¸»å¸­çš„å¥½å­©å­å€‘</span>), and suggested the chairman might reward them all with a Popsicle (<span style="font-family: SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">å†°æ£</span>) if they organized a good protest.<span>  </span>I knew that was likely to get an â€˜interestingâ€™ reaction.<span>  </span>But really, if netizens call me a â€˜foreign pigâ€™ and site administrators lock my threads and ask me to leave, all because I asked a question, how charming am I supposed to be?<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The response was more abuse, then my account on the site was deleted and my IP address blocked.<span>  </span>I was no longer able to even read the site without using a proxy.<span>  </span>Of course having lived in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> I am familiar with proxy servers.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I find this sequence of events hilarious.<span>  </span>It took less than 12 hours for the NZ Chinese media most instrumental in organizing Saturdayâ€™s protest against bias in the western and <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> media to ban (probably) its only non-Chinese contributor.<span>  </span>The crime was simply questioning the nationalistic tendencies of educated young Chinese.<span>  </span>While the online Chinese New Zealand media was busy displaying its massive bias on matters Chinese, the â€˜your viewsâ€™ section of the New Zealand Herald website was allowing Chinese overseas students to engage local New Zealanders in vigorous debate on the China-Tibet issue.<span>  </span>I have no idea if the New Zealand Herald censored comments in that debate, but there is no question that the debate occurred.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could there be a double standard?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Could the irony of this situation be thick enough for a pod of whales to go swimming in?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I attended the protest on Saturday and chatted with a couple of the protesters.<span>  </span>The ones that I spoke to seemed reasonable enough, if (in my opinion) slightly misguided.<span>  </span>My criticisms would be as follows:<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">First, they failed to identify any specific examples of bias in the <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> media.<span>  </span>Yet their protest claimed to be (at least partially) a response to <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> media bias.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Second, they shot themselves in the foot by using some rotten examples to demonstrate western media bias.<span>  </span>Most notably, one of their leading examples was the Fox News photo of Nepali police arresting a demonstrator, the caption for which read â€œChinese troops parade handcuffed Tibetan prisoners in trucksâ€.<span>  </span>It is obvious that the picture was incorrectly captioned and not a serious attempt to mislead.<span>  </span>A person who believes the newspaper used the caption to trick its readers into thinking the Nepali police are Tibetan must also believe the newspaper wants to dupe its readers into seeing invisible trucks, parades of prisoners, and handcuffs.<span>  </span>None of these things were in the photo.<span>  </span>Why did none of these protesters have the mental facility to spot this obvious truth?<span>  </span>Spotting this truth requires nothing more than elementary English and an open and critical mind.<span>  </span>Do none of them possess this?<span>  </span>To somebody like myself who has followed this story closely from the start, they were simply regurgitating the propaganda from the anti-CNN website.<span>  </span>I think they could have done much better.Â  You can find biases in the western media if you look, but few of the examples they presented fitted my definition of meaningful bias.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Third, the English copy of the flier they distributed was extremely difficult to understand and degenerated into illogical rambling in places.  This was an unprofessional attempt at communication.  Why had a native English speaker not edited it?  The copy is almost too lousy to analyze so I am not going to seriously attempt that.  Notably though, the flier stated that western news organizations had been unable to report directly from Tibet because of its geographical remoteness.  The flier went on to state that the students were committed to &#8216;Freedom of Speech&#8217;, and framed &#8216;freedom of speech&#8217; as a shared western and Chinese value. How is this professed commitment to freedom of speech consistent with ignoring the Chinese government&#8217;s vigorous restriction of foreign media access to Tibet?  Why talk about geographical remoteness (surely a side issue), while ignoring tight Chinese controls over media access to Tibet (surely a major issue).  Are they genuinely concerned with free speech and the truth, or are they merely concerned with China&#8217;s image?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fourth, a general survey of the discussion on Skykiwi before and after the protest reveals far more discourse on feeling good about China and abusing things foreign than there is discussion and analysis of the issues they say they are protesting.<span>  </span>For example, one common theme in the online discussion was to draw a parallel between their protest to the anti-Japanese protests (riots?) in <st1:city><st1:place>Shanghai</st1:place></st1:city>.<span>  </span>Another characteristic was describing the event as an â€˜(ethnic) Chinese rallyâ€™ (<span style="font-family: SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">è¯äººé›†æœƒ</span>), not a protest against biased coverage of PRC government handling of the Tibetan issue by the western media.<span>  </span>A further feature has been the protesters publishing <a href="http://www.skykiwi.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=818277&amp;extra=page%3D1" target="_blank">long diatribes online</a> that are expressions of Chinese nationalism and anti-western xenophobia, not genuine attempts to address western media biases.  The failure of the protesters to identify concrete bias in the <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> media, plus their failure to critically analyze the media material presented by their own protest, also support my feeling that the protest was primarily nationalistic.<span>  </span>Social anthropologists sometimes say that you should analyze what people do, not what they say they do.<span>  The </span>protesters say they are protesting a specific grievance, but their discourse before and after the protest neglected the grievance itself in favor of simple nationalistic fervor.<span>  </span>Of course, being motivated by nationalism is not inconsistent with being motivated by real grievances.<span>  </span>However, I think a question should be asked about degree.<span>  </span>To what degree are young Chinese protesters critical thinkers who analyze issues and respond rationally?<span>  </span>To what degree are they uncritical nationalists primed to respond irrationally to all kinds of triggers?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fifth, there was some odd amateurism, or even the hint of a conspiracy.<span>  </span>The online discussion of the protest mentioned that a Tibetan who had recently returned to (or arrived in?) <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> from <st1:city><st1:place>Lhasa</st1:place></st1:city> came past to offer words of support.<span>  </span>The posters mentioned that this Tibetan described <st1:city><st1:place>Lhasa</st1:place></st1:city> to them as a thoroughly harmonious place where all Tibetans feel 100% Chinese and are hugely contented with life.<span>  </span>He also said he had been present in <st1:city><st1:place>Lhasa</st1:place></st1:city> during the riots, and knew for a fact that the disorder had been orchestrated by non-Tibetan speaking agitators from outside <st1:country-region><st1:place>Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region> (who were presumably agents of the DL).<span>  </span>Having made a special trip to express his support, the Tibetan seemed to then take his leave fairly quickly, maybe without participating as a protester.<span>  </span>There was discussion on Skykiwi about how it was not safe to post the Tibetanâ€™s photograph online because doing so could endanger his family back home.<span>  </span>I am not quite sure how this works since <st1:city><st1:place>Lhasa</st1:place></st1:city> is said to be a harmonious place inhabited by contended people.<span>  </span>The really interesting thing however is this.<span>  </span>The sentence previous to the one requesting the Tibetanâ€™s photo not be published provided his full name.<span>  </span>How can the protesters be such amateurs?<span>  </span>Wasnâ€™t the same person who published the Tibean&#8217;s name supposedly concerned with protecting his identity?<span>  </span>Maybe the Tibetan told them he was happy to be represented by a name but not by a photograph?<span>  </span>Maybe he used a false name?<span>  </span>But if the Tibetan hid his true identity from the protesters, could his whole agenda in approaching them have been a deceptive one?  I assume the protesters are simply amateurs.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Well that just about wraps up what I have to say about the matter of bias in the New Zealand Chinese media and the protests against bias in the western media.<span>  </span>Comments are welcome.<span>  </span>Abuse is not.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Update: Some follow up to all this is <a href="http://bunnyhugs.org/2008/04/02/chinese-nationalist-protesters-and-chinese-online-media-in-new-zealand-the-saga-continuies/">here</a> &#8211; including death threats!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">* Do not take that to mean that i think the <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> media coverage has been problem free.<span>  </span>I have not even read most of the <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> coverage because I prefer to get my news on Chinese issues from specifically <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> oriented sources.<span>  </span>However, I noticed nothing unusual in what I did read.<span>  </span>I also note that the New Zealand Herald website appears to have allowed a free debate in its online comments section, which saw an exchange of views between those supporting and opposing the Tibetan protesters (and rioters).</p>
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		<title>Whiskey Live: Auckland</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should probably have written Whisky Live, but the extra â€˜eâ€™ somehow seems to add something to the word. On Saturday I attended Whiskey Live in Auckland. Whiskey Live is a whiskey event that creeps around the globe dousing various cities in whiskey for the day. The Auckland event was mostly about Scotch, with a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">I should probably have written Whisky Live, but the extra â€˜eâ€™ somehow seems to add something to the word.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Saturday I attended Whiskey Live in <st1:city><st1:place>Auckland</st1:place></st1:city>.<span>  </span>Whiskey Live is a whiskey event that creeps around the globe dousing various cities in whiskey for the day.<span>  </span>The <st1:city><st1:place>Auckland</st1:place></st1:city> event was mostly about Scotch, with a single lonely â€˜Bourbonâ€™ producer, a little whiskey from <st1:state><st1:place>Tasmania</st1:place></st1:state> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region>, and I think some Irish whiskey floating around somewhere.<span>  </span>In the <st1:country-region><st1:place>U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region> there is probably a little more American whiskey.<span>  </span>Maybe the <st1:city><st1:place>Auckland</st1:place></st1:city> event could have done with some more American whiskey, but then that might have distracted the focus a little.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">At any rate there was a huge range of Scotch whiskey.<span>  </span>All the Scotch distilleries I knew of were represented, plus plenty I had never heard of.<span>  </span>The range of whiskey was impressive enough, but the venue provided the finishing touch.<span>  </span>The Civic Theater is a truly amazing piece of art deco architecture and filling a grand old building like that with fine whiskeys and a crowd gathered specially to sample them made for a somewhat magical occasion.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span id="more-684"></span>As I walked in a got handed a bag full of goodies, most crucially a tasting glass and a pile of tasting vouchers.<span>  </span>I flicked through the guide book to see what was on offer and found way too much information to actually take in.<span>  </span>I tried finding a table and looking through the book in detail.<span>  </span>This didnâ€™t work either though.<span>  </span>A cocktail competition starting up in the bar across from my table threatened to distract me further, the guide book contained too many possibilities to digest, and time was of the essence.<span>  </span>I decided to start by sampling the <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> â€˜bourbonâ€™, and take a random wander looking for the <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> bourbon producer as a way of getting my bearings.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The show was divided into three levels.<span>  </span>The circle level of the Civic seemed to mostly be Islay whiskeys, the foyer level offered a cocktail making competition and whiskeys for retail sale, and the lower level contained the main show floor, a huge range of Scotch whiskeys plus a few from New Zealand and Tasmania.<span>  </span>The <st1:country-region><st1:place>New   Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> â€˜bourbonâ€™ was on the lower level so I started there.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://bunnyhugs.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/bhwhiskeylive30001.jpg" title="bhwhiskeylive30001.jpg"><img src="http://bunnyhugs.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/bhwhiskeylive30001.jpg" alt="bhwhiskeylive30001.jpg" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Old Busman â€˜bourbonâ€™ came in two varieties, a seven year old black label and a four year old gold label.<span>  </span>I started with the black label.<span>  </span>I hadnâ€™t been sure what to expect but it was a pleasant enough surprise.<span>  </span>It was smooth to a fault with some vanilla and a little bit of tannin.<span>  </span>While pleasant it was not very exciting or complex though.<span>  </span>It seemed like it could make a nice smooth mixing whiskey.<span>  </span>The distiller compared it to Gentleman Jack.<span>  </span>It has been too long since Iâ€™ve tried Gentleman Jack.<span>  </span>However, I remember it as being a pleasant enough whiskey that was too smooth for its own good.<span>  </span>There may be something in the comparison.<span>  </span>After that I tried the gold label.<span>  </span>This one was less pleasant, coming across initially with a slightly peculiar whiff of old sock or similar.<span>  </span>An odd taste like that could almost be impressive in an <st1:place>Islay</st1:place> whiskey but in a bourbon it was just odd.<span>  </span>After a few sips that smell seemed to dissipate.<span>  </span>All in all the <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> bourbon was nothing I would bother to seek out again.<span>  </span>The production methods were also apparently slightly unorthodox, with the spirit being matured in stainless steel tanks and â€˜oakedâ€™ using wood chips.<span>  </span>While the result was not unpleasant it also lacked character.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Next I tried a couple of whiskeys from Sullivans Cove, a Tasmanian distillery.<span>  </span>They were both decent if not especially memorable.<span>  </span>The second was the show bottling, and was a very light and smooth whiskey.<span>  </span>It wasnâ€™t the type of thing I would normally drink but good nevertheless.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">After that I headed upstairs to try some Ardberg.<span>  </span>The 10 year old was the only variety on offer.<span>  </span>Compared to the <st1:place>Islay</st1:place> whiskeys I am more used to drinking (i.e. Laphroaig or Lagavullin), it was anything but peaty â€“ despite the brand rep (who unlike most of the reps there didnâ€™t really seem to be a whiskey person) talking up that aspect of the taste.<span>  </span>Still, I had to agree with her that there was something quite elegant about it compared to others from <st1:place>Islay</st1:place>.<span>  </span>It was less exciting as some but definitely nice.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I spent a little while watching the cocktail competition, and by that stage it was time for the first of the two master classes I had enrolled in.<span>  </span>The first master class was titled Secrets of Scotland and basically introduced five lesser known distilleries.<span>  </span>The class was taken by Dominic Roskrow of Whisky Magazine.<span> </span>The session was a little light on solid information about the distilleries and whiskeys but he was an entertaining speaker.<span>  </span>The five whiskeys are summarized below:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- The first whiskey was from the Arran Distillery on the Isle of Arran, which is <st1:country-region><st1:place>Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region>â€™s newest distillery.<span>  </span>I found it unusual stuff.<span>  </span>It reminded me a little of Chinese Baijiu, with some odd fruity flavors.<span>  </span>Unlike Baijiu the experience was clearly pleasant rather than unpleasant.<span>  </span>Dominic described it as creamy, something I didnâ€™t pick up myself.<span>  </span>Despite this being an island distillery the whiskey wasnâ€™t peated.<span>  </span>I guess that was one reason the fruit flavors were so evident.<span>  </span>I was not sure how much I actually liked this but it was one of the more interesting whiskeys of the day and one I would definitely like to try again.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- Whiskey number two was a Bunnahabhain from <st1:place>Islay</st1:place>.<span>  </span>This one was mildly smoky, rich and sweet.<span>  </span>It was extremely drinkable stuff but somehow not a favorite with me.<span>  </span>Dominic reckoned it was great stuff for a session.<span>  </span>He is right but I found it a little one dimensional.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- Number three was a rare one, a discontinued 15 year old Longmorn from Speyside that had been couriered over specially from <st1:country-region><st1:place>Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>Apparently Pernod Ricard now owns Longmorn and decided to discontinue the 15 year old and replace it with a 16 year old at twice the price.<span>  </span>The result has been that the 16 year old has failed to take off while the 15 year old has become a collectorâ€™s item.<span>  </span>This one was delicious stuff.<span>  </span>It was smooth and rich with caramel flavors, but simultaneously sharp and full of citrus and orange notes.<span>  </span>Definitely a stand out.<span>  </span>Longmorn shares warehouses with Benreiach, who make some unusual peated Speyside whiskeys (e.g. Authenticus).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- Number four was an independent bottling of Caol Isla.<span>  </span>Caol Isla is widely used in blending, especially by Johnny Walker.<span>  </span>Apparently Caol Isla only recently started getting promoted as a single malt, in response to the shortage of Lagavulin â€“ supposedly caused because of a miscalculation of barrel sizes when planning Lagavulinâ€™s inclusion in the malts of <st1:country-region><st1:place>Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region> whiskey pedestal you see in bars and bottle stores.<span>  </span>The whiskey was peaty but pleasantly smooth at the same time.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- Whiskey number five was Ledaig (pronounced le-chig), a peated whiskey produced at the normally non-peated Tobermorey distillery on the Isle of Mull (same side as <st1:place>Islay</st1:place>).<span>  </span>Two peated whiskeys in a row may have been too much for me and this one did not come over as pleasantly as the previous one.<span>  </span>Once again it was peaty but beyond that it did not make much of an impact on me.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">With the master class finished I went and did some more exploring.<span>  </span>I tried one of the Benriach whiskeys.<span>  </span>I meant to try the Bunnahabhain Islay on the neighboring stand but somehow forgot to do it.<span>  </span>I also tried the Tullibardine port wood finish and didnâ€™t like it that much.<span>  </span>It was kind of heavy.<span>  </span>Obviously when you taste too many whiskeys in quick succession your perception starts to get a bit out of whack, but I think these dark whiskeys finished in richly flavored barrels are just a bit much for me.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://bunnyhugs.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/bhwhiskeylive20001.jpg" title="bhwhiskeylive20001.jpg"><img src="http://bunnyhugs.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/bhwhiskeylive20001.jpg" alt="bhwhiskeylive20001.jpg" /></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I watched some more of the cocktail competition and saw an English bartender from Sweet (a bar I have been hearing a lot about but have yet to visit) making an interesting drink using Famous Grouse, homemade blueberry liqueur, rosemary flambÃ©ed in Grand Marnier, and possibly some other ingredient I have forgotten.<span>  </span>It looked impressive and the result had an interesting rosemary flavor.<span>  </span>I was not sure if the whiskey carried through very strongly but my taste buds had probably been pretty much desensitized by that point.<span>  </span>Upstairs I tried some Laphroaig Quarter Cask and got chatting with a guy who had had been in the previous master class, visited the distillery, and spent the next couple of years flavoring his BBQs with a chunk of peat he cut out of the ground there.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">By this stage it was time for the next round of master classes so I headed back for another session with Dominic Roskrow.<span>  </span>This session was on the influence of wood on whiskey and was more interesting than the previous one.<span>  </span>I guess the nature of the topic was such that it was easier to give some interesting information.<span>  </span>In my by that stage somewhat inebriated state, the following bits and pieces struck me as interesting.<span>  </span>Apparently around 75% of the taste of whiskey comes from wood.<span>  </span>Actually it would have been fascinating to have had the chance to try some fresh, unaged whiskey in this class.<span>  </span>That would be the real way to learn the influence of wood on its flavor.<span>  </span>I wonder why they didnâ€™t do something so obvious?<span>  </span>Apparently wood also takes out of whiskey as well as adding to it, with fatty acids remaining in the wood after it has been used to age whiskey.<span>  </span>Interestingly, the â€˜aleâ€™ from which whiskey is distilled is a sour ale that is purposefully produced in unhygienic conditions, something like a Belgian Lambic.<span>  </span>The strength of that beer is around 7%.<span>  </span>Again tasting some of that beer would be a good way to learn more about how whiskey gets its flavor.<span>  </span>Never mind.<span>  </span>On the subject of caks, apparently Bourbon casks are 1/10 of the price of sherry casks (due to the Bourbon regulations mandating new casks ensuring a continuous supply of used ones).<span>  </span>Meanwhile, sherry cask conditioned whiskeys are much darker than bourbon cask conditioned ones.<span>  </span>Anyway, on to the whiskeys, of which again there were five:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Number one was an Auchentoshan Three Wood from <st1:city><st1:place>Glasgow</st1:place></st1:city>, matured successively in Oloroso, Pedro Ximenez and Bourbon casks.<span>  </span>My notes were getting scanty by this point though I remember enjoying this one.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->I canâ€™t read my own writing to see what the name of the distillery was for number two.<span>  </span>It looks like Glenfiddich but that somehow seems wrong.<span>  </span>In any case, it was an â€˜oak crossâ€™, meaning that it was matured in a mixture of virgin and bourbon oak.<span>  </span>I think the ratio was that 1/15 of the whiskey was matured in virgin oak casks and the remainder in the usual bourbon casks.<span>  </span>In any event it was tasty.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Number three was an organic whiskey.<span>  </span>It seems I gave up on trying to spell the distillery â€“ it looks to have been a â€˜Ben-something-or-otherâ€™ [added later: I believe this was Benromach].<span>  </span>This was maybe the most interesting whiskey of the day.<span>  </span>I really liked it.<span>  </span>It was matured purely in virgin oak casks and as a result had a massive oak flavor.<span>  </span>Obviously this made it taste uncannily like Bourbon, but of course it was made purely from barley rather than a corn dominated mixture of corn, rye, wheat and barley.<span>  </span>It was like a weird cross-over and was definitely a drink to completely change your perceptions of whiskey.<span>  </span>I was so impressed by this one that it ended up being by far the most lasting influence of the whole session.<span>  </span>I think I have had a similar whiskey before from Compass Box (or maybe I am thinking of one matured in used chardonnay casks), but in any event this one was a real stand out.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Number four was an 18 year old Glenmoragie.<span>  </span>It was very nice but didnâ€™t leave an especially deep impression.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Number five was another whose distillery I ended up not noting.<span>  </span>I think it was called something like Bira Boonah.<span>  </span>The whiskey was very strong (67% I think), very dark, and was heavily influenced by the cask.<span>  </span>Despite the intense dark color this one was not at all cloying, perhaps partly because of the high alcohol.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This second class evolved into a pretty lively question and answer session, perhaps another reason why the last couple of whiskeys didnâ€™t get quite the attention they might otherwise have done.<span>  </span>Then was some discussion after the class, a little time to race around trying a couple more whiskeys before the show packed up, and then it was time to stagger home.<span> </span>To get more out of the tasting side of things it would probably be sensible to spit the whiskeys out rather than finishing every sample.<span> </span>You just canâ€™t drink that much whiskey and stay focused.<span>  </span>On the other hand it seems like a waste to pour the stuff away.<span>  </span>I think there were a few spittoons scattered around.<span>  </span>I didnâ€™t see too many people using them though. More water stands for rinsing glasses might also have been good.  <span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It was a good event and Iâ€™d definitely go again.<span>  </span>Next time round it would be good to get hold of the program a little earlier and have more time to read through the material and plan what I really want to sample.</p>
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		<title>Another poorly written article on Taiwan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get so fed up with the abysmal quality of reporting on Taiwan. Your typical Taiwan story is generally barely researched and hugely biased. Dev Nadkarni (who seems to be a Journalism lecturer from Fiji) served up a recent example in the New Zealand Herald. You can read the story here. I am sick of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get so fed up with the abysmal quality of reporting on Taiwan.  Your typical Taiwan story is generally barely researched and hugely biased.  Dev Nadkarni (who seems to be a Journalism lecturer from Fiji) served up a recent example in the New Zealand Herald.   You can read the story <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/466/story.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10489975" title="here">here</a>.</p>
<p>I am sick of reading this garbage so on Friday I shot a letter off to the editor of the New Zealand Herald.  <span id="more-675"></span>Of course my letter was way too long to publish (one of the problems with the whole Taiwan issue is that it is complex and doesn&#8217;t lend itself to simple analysis), but hopefully the New Zealand Herald will pass the letter on to Mr. Nadkarni.  My letter follows (slightly edited from the original version, which went out unedited and contained a couple of typos).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Dear Editor,</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Dev Nankarniâ€™s article on the KMT election win in <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> and its implications for Chinese-Taiwanese relations and Pacific diplomacy was ridiculously misinformed.<span>  </span>Some quick points follow.</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>To blandly state that <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> were united until they â€˜went their separate waysâ€™ after the civil war misrepresents history.<span>  </span><st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> was originally a non-Chinese Austronesian society.<span>  Ironically, despite being based in Fiji, Mr. Nadkarni completely ignores Taiwan&#8217;s Austronesian beginnings.  </span>Permanent Chinese settlement in Taiwan only began during the Dutch colonial period in the early 17<sup>th</sup> Century, when Dutch subjugation of the Austronesian aboriginals first made settlement attractive to Chinese emigrants.<span>  </span><st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> first became part of a <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> based state only when the Ming loyalist Koxinga (a mixed Chinese-Japanese born in <st1:city><st1:place>Nagasaki</st1:place></st1:city>) drove the Dutch from <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> in the later 17<sup>th</sup> Century. <span> </span>From this point Taiwan evolved as a predominantly ethnically Chinese society.<span>  </span>Koxingaâ€™s government did not represent the Manchurian Qing Dynasty that ruled <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> at the time though. <span> </span>Koxinga was the head of a small anti-Qing state (little more than a couple of cities) that fell to the Qing armies shortly after he seized <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region>. <span> </span>The Qing Empire (technically a Manchurian Empire that happened to rule China) then gained control of Taiwan but largely neglected it. <st1:country-region><st1:place></st1:place></st1:country-region><span>  </span>While the Qing Empire exerted political control in <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region>, its control never extended into the mountainous interior or across to the east coast of the island.<span>  </span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>In the late 19<sup>th</sup> century the Qing Empire ceded <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> to the Japanese following a short war, trading <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> to keep Japanese influence out of the Chinese and Manchurian heartlands.<span>  </span><st1:country-region><st1:place>This trade demonstrated the peripheral importance of Taiwan to China at that time.  Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> then experienced 50 years of Japanese rule.<span>  </span>The Japanese invested heavily in the economy and <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> leapt ahead of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> in terms of development.</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>After WWII the Americans handed <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> over to the KMT (Chinese Nationalist Party) government of Chiang Kai-shek. <span> </span><st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> saw its considerable wealth siphoned off to line the pockets of corrupt politicians and gangsters in <st1:city><st1:place>Shanghai</st1:place></st1:city> and the islandâ€™s economy collapsed.<span>  </span>When the CCP defeated the KMT in the civil war, the KMT fled to <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> and spent the next several decades oppressing the Taiwanese population and trading occasional shell barrages with their CCP enemies.<span>  </span>The arrival of the KMT in Taiwan was as much another colonization as it was a joyous return of Taiwan to the Chinese â€˜motherlandâ€™ &#8211; a â€˜motherâ€™ that adopted it relatively late and never especially cared about it.<span>  </span>Hokkien (the Chinese language spoken by the majority of <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region>â€™s inhabitants) was banned from education and public life, and Taiwanese school teachers, officials and intellectuals were harassed and murdered and saw their jobs taken by KMT loyalists from <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>The situation only improved as democratization was gradually introduced during the 1980s and 1990s and Taiwanese once again got the opportunity to run their own affairs.</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> has spent centuries as the pawn of other nations.<span>  </span>In the past decade or two democratization has finally given Taiwanese a chance to chart their own future.<span>  </span>It is depressing to see badly informed commentators unquestioningly swallowing <st1:city><st1:place>Beijing</st1:place></st1:city>â€™s rhetoric on the nature of the â€˜<st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> issueâ€™ and thus constraining the space available to democracy in Taiwan.<span>  </span>A few points that Mr. Nankarni should take note of: </em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><em><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span>The chequebook diplomacy Mr. Nankarni complains about was initiated decades ago by the KMT.<span>  </span>It has absolutely nothing to do with the DPP, which has controlled the presidency for less than a decade and has never controlled the legislature, which has remained KMT controlled.<span>  </span>There is no reason to assume this chequebook diplomacy will vanish following the KMTâ€™s recent electoral win.<span>  </span>The budget for this activity has always been approved by the KMT controlled legislature! </em><!--[endif]--></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><em><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span>The DPP actually slightly increased its vote total in the recent legislative election, but the electoral map and electoral rules had changed relative to the previous election.<span>  </span>The KMT landslide results from a new electoral environment, specifically gerrymandering of electoral districts and the collapse of the minor parties allied with the DPP (namely the TSU).<span>  </span>Vote counts do not indicate a strong shift in public sentiment against the DPP.</em><!--[endif]--></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><em><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span>It is ridiculous to claim that <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> under a DPP president has not pursued a policy of engaging economically with <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>Most of <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region>â€™s industries long ago moved their production facilities to <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>Some figures rank <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> as the biggest foreign investor in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>, and however you work the figures <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> has a top three ranking.<span>  </span>Also remember that a large percentage of Hong Kongese investment in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> is by Taiwanese controlled but <st1:place>Hong Kong</st1:place> registered companies, meaning the official figures understate the real level of Taiwanese investment in China.<span>  </span>The number of Taiwanese working in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> must already exceed a million, with over 300 thousand in <st1:city><st1:place>Shanghai</st1:place></st1:city> alone.<span>  </span><st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region>â€™s total population is only a little over 20 million.<span>  </span>How economically engaged with <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> would <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> have to be for Mr. Nankarni to drop this nonsensical claim? </em><!--[endif]--></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><em><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span>There has been high dissatisfaction with the poor performance of the Chen Shui-bian presidency.<span>  </span>However, much of the poor performance results from obstructionist behavior by the KMT controlled legislature.<span>  </span>When Chen Shui-bian won the presidency the initial reaction of the KMT leadership was to seek to have the results overturned.<span>  </span>There were even subtle suggestions that a military coup could be an option.<span>  </span>Senior KMT leaders commandeered trucks and used them to assault riot police!<span>  </span>Since the DPP presidency started the KMT has used its control over the legislature to block huge swathes of legislation, much of it routine and uncontroversial.<span>  </span>Economically stimulatory infrastructure spending has mostly been blocked.<span>  </span>Unfortunately the presidency is weak in <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan so the DPP has been powerless in the face of these obstructionist tactics</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<span>  </span>Surely the KMT is as much to blame as the DPP for the messy governance?</em><!--[endif]--></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><em><span><span>-<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">          </span></span></span>Mr. Nankarni claims that people-to-people relations between <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> have worsened in recent years mainly because the Chen Shui-bian and the DPP.<span>  </span>I would say that a larger reason for poor people-to-people relations would be the behavior of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> and its people. Lobbing missiles into a Taiwanese harbor to try and influence election results, as <st1:city><st1:place>Beijing</st1:place></st1:city> did in 1996, is not a good way to win friends.<span>  </span>Encouraging your citizens to harass Taiwanese participants in international events is also guaranteed to escalate a sensitive situation, yet it has become routine to see PRC citizens demand that organizers of international events remove Taiwanese flags.<span>  </span>The Chinese government regularly threatens to ban representatives on national teams from attending future events or denies them funding if they fail to prevent the display of the Taiwanese flag.<span>  </span>Young Taiwanese computer gamers have seen their awards ceremonies ruined by politics as Chinese boo their flag.<span>  </span>Taiwanese beauty queens have been reduced to tears in similar displays of nasty bigotry.<span>  </span>I have been harassed myself by Chinese staff in a Foodtown here in <st1:city><st1:place>Auckland</st1:place></st1:city><span>  </span>simply for wearing a t-shirt displaying a Taiwanese flag.  Ironically the t-shirt was a historical souvenir purchased in a museum in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> â€“ the â€˜Taiwaneseâ€™ flag being the pre-CCP Chinese flag.<span>  </span>Blaming Chen Shui-bian for poor people-to-people interactions ignores the real problem.<span>  </span>Certain behavior is simply unacceptable regardless of what some democratically elected politician may or may not be saying.</em><!--[endif]--></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>I have no opinion on how to solve the â€˜Taiwan questionâ€™ other than to urge everyone with an interest to open up their minds, study the facts, and consider the wishes of the Taiwanese people, whatever those wishes may be.<span>  </span>Badly researched and misinformed articles are counterproductive.<span>  </span>Mr. Nankarniâ€™s piece was extremely disappointing.</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Regards,</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Seamus Harris</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><o:p> </o:p></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>P.S. I realize this is far too long to publish, but please forward it to Mr. Nankarni.<span>  </span>If you could distribute it among any other writers on your staff who are likely to write about <st1:country-region><st1:place>Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> then that would also be greatly appreciated.<span>  </span>Thanks.</em></p>
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		<title>Edmund Hillary and the New Zealand Chinese Media</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sir Edmund Hillary died yesterday morning. For the past 24 hours the New Zealand media has been full of tributes, summaries of his achievements, reactions from around the world, various miscellaneous interest stories. Some might call it overdone, but it isn&#8217;t like he&#8217;s done this before, so lets let the media go to town. If [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir Edmund Hillary died yesterday morning.</p>
<p>For the past 24 hours the New Zealand media has been full of tributes, summaries of his achievements, reactions from around the world, various miscellaneous interest stories.  Some might call it overdone, but it isn&#8217;t like he&#8217;s done this before, so lets let the media go to town.  If talk-back radio is anything to go by the interest is out there.  Since he passed away there has been little else on the airwaves besides people ringing in and sharing stories and thoughts. OK, there has been a little bit of silly stuff (replacing Waitangi Day with Hillary Day can only seem a good idea if harmonious race relations bore you), but mostly it&#8217;s been a feel-good media fest.</p>
<p>So far the New Zealand Chinese media is a glaring exception though.<span id="more-672"></span></p>
<p>This morning the newspapers got their big chance to run the story.  Lets compare today&#8217;s New Zealand Herald (probably the closest thing New Zealand has to a national newspaper) with the New Zealand Chinese Herald (its Chinese language sister publication) [UPDATE: It appears the publications are not related. The story seems a bit complicated and I have not bothered to find out the truth.Â  They may have been related initially, but the New Zealand Chinese Herald is now separate.].</p>
<p>The New Zealand Herald led with the headline story &#8220;Happy Ending to a Life of Heroic Feats and Care for Fellow Man&#8221;.  That was supplemented by an editorial, two pieces by columnists, and something like 13 supplementary stories.  This count was based on the paper&#8217;s website, and it is possible that one or two of the supplementary stories didn&#8217;t make it into print, or that they were put on the site later in the day &#8211; it is already Saturday evening now.</p>
<p>The New Zealand Chinese Herald led with the headline story &#8220;U.S. Sub-Prime Lending Storm Reaches New Zealand&#8221; (ç¾Žåœ‹æ¬¡è²¨é¢¨æš´é€²è¥²ç´è¥¿è˜­).  The story details the increased cost of borrowing facing home buyers.  Honestly. . . What the fuck?</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s New Zealand Chinese Herald contains not a single news story on Sir Edmund Hillary.  The local news stories are as follows: &#8220;Farmers are Prepared to Deal With La Nina&#8221;; &#8220;Teenage Girl Escapes Abductor&#8221;; &#8220;Adventure Cavers Criticized for Lack of Professionalism&#8221;; &#8220;Japanese Tourist Ordered to Pay NZ$10,000 to Family of Deceased&#8221;; &#8220;Almost 6,000 Dangerous Drivers Still on the Roads&#8221;; &#8220;Policeman and Superiors Accuse One Another of Neglecting Duties&#8221; (a bad translation on that one sorry); and finally and most unfortunately, &#8220;Is it Really Possible to get into New Zealand without a Passport?&#8221; (ä¸ç”¨è­·ç…§å°±èƒ½é€²å…¥ç´è¥¿è˜­ï¼Ÿ).</p>
<p>All of those stories are supposedly written by the publication&#8217;s own reporters, of which there are several judging by the various names that appear.  This is not a publication that simply lifts the English news from the previous day and translates it into Chinese.  Well maybe that is what they do, but it is not how they present themselves.</p>
<p>So the casual reader of the New Zealand Chinese Herald for Saturday 12 January 2008 would have no idea  that Sir Edmund Hillary had died, though they may have decided that the rejection of Auntie Liu&#8217;s visa application is no biggie after all.  More thorough readers  would find an obituary for Hillary tucked away on the editorial page in Section D .  The obituary took up about a quarter of a page and was a very standard piece, simply listing the main facts of Hillary&#8217;s life, without any real thoughts on his significance to New Zealand or other opinions from the editor.</p>
<p>The obituary did contain one detail that I don&#8217;t think the English language media picked up on despite devoting far more space to the story.  Apparently, a Chinese sculptor named Chen Weiming (é™³ç¶­æ˜Ž) was commissioned to produce a statue of Hillary over a decade ago.  This detail was simply added as a sentence after the obituary.  There were no details on where the statue was (it might be the Orewa statue since the one at Mt. Cook is only five years old).  The editor hadn&#8217;t tried to track down the sculptor to get a comment, mentioned why they got the job, or expanded on who they were.  Perhaps Chen Weiming is a household name in China, but I have never heard of him and wouldn&#8217;t have minded knowing more.  There was nothing about whether the statue had started to attract wreaths or other tributes.  By stretching the statue business a little more she could have created a Chinese angle on the whole story; but no, the statue detail just sat there like an incomplete afterthought.</p>
<p>Another more obvious Chinese angle could have been that Mt. Everest is sort of a Chinese mountain. The mountain&#8217;s Chinese name is ç ç©†æœ—ç‘ªå±±, and Everest Base Camp is located in Chinese territory.</p>
<p>Of course the most obvious Chinese angle of all would have been that Hillary&#8217;s climbing partner Tenzeng Norgay was not a Nepali, or a Sherpa, but an ethnic Tibetan from what is now China.  Tenzeng grew up in a Sherpa region of Nepal after his family emigrated there, but he was an non-Sherpa outsider in that society, having been born in Tibet to Tibetan parents.  Given that Tenzeng had grown up a cultural outsider, in a border region before the surrounding nations formalized their borders, he was in a sense stateless.  Following the Everest success the Indian PM Nehru decided Tenzeng was the sort of hero who could be useful in building the Indian nation, and offered to formalize his hazy legal status by the grant of Indian citizenship together with generous patronage. Tenzeng thus gained the financial security he desperately wanted for his family, but also had plenty of reasons to keep his &#8216;Chinese&#8217; origins quiet.  He would raise his children (all to Sherpa women) as Sherpas rather than Tibetans.</p>
<p>Admittedly it&#8217;s a literal borderline case, given that Tenzeng was born in a remote border region of Tibet, at a time when Chinese control over Tibet was nonexistent, and back when national borders didn&#8217;t mean a great deal anyway.  However, the Chinese rant endlessly about Tibet being an indelible part of the Glorious Chinese Motherland, the Tibetans being their brother race (subordinate of course), and so on, and therefore I can&#8217;t explain why this angle was overlooked in the New Zealand Chinese media.  Most nations like to claim their heroes, and Tenzeng was a remarkable partner to Hillary who the Chinese have a claim to.</p>
<p>Much like Hillary, Tenzeng was an ordinary guy who overcame a humble background to achieve worldwide fame through his skills, determination, endurance, and perhaps a spot of luck with the weather.  His story is very like that of Hillary, but sort of an Asian version.</p>
<p>The New Zealand Chinese Herald has embarrassed itself badly.  After the papers came out this morning it was announced that Hillary would be getting a state funeral.  So we now have a state funeral scheduled for Hillary, but the &#8216;news team&#8217; at the New Zealand Chinese Herald has yet to report the guy dead!</p>
<p>This group of &#8216;journalists&#8217; have assigned the most famous New Zealander (the only one who features on the currency &#8211; how did that one pass them by?) to the &#8216;irrelevant to our Asian readership&#8217; category, despite his most celebrated achievement being done in partnership with one of the most famous Asians (and arguably &#8216;Chinese&#8217;) of the 20th Century.  Incredible.  Presumably these guys draw salaries.  They don&#8217;t deserve them.</p>
<p>When I picked up the Chinese Herald I initially thought that their printing schedule must be too early to run the Hillary story.  Or maybe the staff were so out of touch with the rest of society that they were unaware of the news? The journalists at the Chinese Herald can&#8217;t spell Dominion Rd. (they favor the more exotic &#8216;Domainion Rd.&#8217;) despite the fact that their readers either rent or own most of it, so nothing is impossible. But the editor was aware that Hillary had died and had sufficient time to write an obituary before she put the paper to press.  Her editorial has a note attached saying it was written in the early evening, so the publication had at least half a day to react to the story.</p>
<p>Despite being aware of the news then, the editor was happy to let the Saturday paper go out with a headline on the cost of borrowing?  Did she have no sense of her responsibility to inform her readers of the day&#8217;s big story?  Didn&#8217;t she consider that by leading with interest rates when a national hero had just died she might be making the Chinese community look a little insensitive, ignorant, insular, and errr. . .  money-obsessed?</p>
<p>Surely a major function (among others of course) of minority language media is to relay current news and help members of minorities understand the societies they live in?  How could the New Zealand Chinese Herald treat a major news story, and a very easy one (i.e. uncontroversial and simple to research), so stupidly and unprofessionally?  They didn&#8217;t even have the imagination to make the story directly relevant to the Chinese community, despite the enormous potential to do so.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen any of the other Chinese papers yet.  Hopefully they have done better.  You don&#8217;t expect blanket coverage, but surely this has to be front page news?</p>
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